new piano soon?... (Page 1 of 2)

"New" piano.

K3?

Ooh, never known Modartt to do a teaser before, very exciting!!!

Fazioli also offering a silent piano maybe?!!

For those not in the know:
https://www.steingraeber.de/en/steingra...nt-pianos/

A Stephen Paulello (sorry)...

Can’t tell which brand. That high singing tone almost like Petrof Mistral mixed with a hint of Steinway D for Bass. Definitely not Yamaha C7. I probably 100 percent wrong. Just guessing.

Well... a too short clip to fair judge, but I could say I felt the deep bass sonded more powerfull and natural than ever.
  The metal sounds feels good and not tin, richer in texture.
  The highest velocities also appears to get a more organic feeling.

   What passion don't do?

Doesn't hint at anything but I guess silent practice systems are only likely to become more popular.

https://youtu.be/CbGA4va5ibs?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/mrB8IthgoRQ?si=AC8HOi9yHnvBC4ff

a new piano sounds great indeed, no matter what it is.  always ready for a new one

Assuming the images in the teaser represent the new piano :
- it can’t be a Fazioli because the top of the music stand in the silhouette is curved . All Fazioli acoustic grands music stands  have straight tops .

Imho , it looks  similar to a Bösendorfer 280 VC and the brillance of the sound is similar.

Why does the drumroll seem to take forever waiting for the crash cymbal to come in?

Maybe just me.

There's a new piano in the online manual?

Yes a Bösendorfer... Great! I've got to make some space in my living room for it !

i can live with that

I've been dying for anything Bosendorfer, so super happy for the new piano. Let's hope this is a long collaboration.
Edit: congratulations to Modaart as well, it is not easy to get approved from a major piano manufacturer if you don't bring forward something of undeniable quality!

This:
https://www.modartt.com/user_manual?pro...mp;lang=en

Scroll down to 3.1.3.

Authorized by Bosendorfer.

"Bösendorfer Concert Grand 280VC
Bosendorfer 280VC
Authorized by Bösendorfer, the Concert Grand 280VC physical model faithfully captures the rich resonance and dynamic spectrum of the instrument, making it a true joy to play and bringing many hours of listening pleasure. It’s easy to understand why: breathtaking dynamics, astounding colours, exhilarating brilliance, a sound as clear as diamonds, yet playfully gleaming like beaming sparkles of light. Franz Liszt, Arthur Rubinstein, Victor Borge, Leonard Bernstein, Oscar Peterson, Vangelis, Tori Amos, Gonzalo Rubalcaba, Daniil  Trifonov, and many more, have been using Bösendorfer pianos in their careers, leading to many prominent recordings."

If so, mp3 update to include 280VC will be ready next days.

Is Bosendorfer 280VC very close to 290 in sound, as the size suggest, or the extra bass strings of 290 make quite a difference?
I wonder if Modartt could add an option to 280VC get extra keys, as they did to Steinway-D

From what I hear the 280vc Is brighter, clearer, a bit more clinical, more modern sounding.
The 290 is more characterful, with more resonances.
The inevitable comparisons can be made by comparing the drive eating VSL Synchron sample leviathans, or recordings of the real thing on YT.

Agreed, more modern sounding is the more accurate description. The Imperial is on a class of its own compared to any modern piano because it has mantained certain features from its conception, the rim has a particolar construction, the iron frame despite accomodating 249 strings has been designed not to cover as much space as possible over the soundboard, single stringing and the use of capo d'astros in the upper register. Some of this feature were also adopted in the 280VC but the sound is definitely different, more even if you want, while in the Imperial the difference between the registers is more clear. However this was also some sort of downside in a way because not everybody liked the particular sound of the Imperial (it was either love at first hearing or dislike), while the new model has pretty much captured unanimously the likings of every pianists leaving only a few ones, myself included, a little bit skeptical because more used to the older and more peculiar sound. I am fine as long as both models will continue production but it would be a loss if the 280VC were to substitute the 290 in the long run though it would make more sense production wise and from an economical point of view.

Well anyway, I'm poised ready to pounce on the Buy button as soon as it's available!

There is indeed a lot of the Bosendorfer sound in the 280VC, no question about it.The craftmanship and the materials used are pretty much the same, it is not an alien in their range.

I wonder how much far in time we can go to consider a modern piano sound today. Is a average piano sound of 40 or 45 years ago considered modern?

I can't talk for Modartt, but I presume they are not happy with the Nerd Detectives had spoiled their teaser surprise.

Yeah, not sure here, it could be deliberate (accidentaliberate!) but then again who knows?
It does make you wonder why they don't work on those pages 100% offline if this isn't supposed to happen.

I chose not to comment anywhere else like on the YT page itself but yeah, not sure if it's just honest mistakes with the website again or intentional.

Who knows, maybe that's just the tip of the iceberg?

It's very welcome and doesn't spoil it for me.

If you wanted that sound you could possibly spend several hundred on the VSL equivalent in their sale and maybe need to buy a new NVME drive to house it.  It's going to be dramatically cheaper than going that route so what's spoiled?

On the other question - The 1920s pianos can sound pretty good and only a little different. So yeah with good examples of 1970-90s pianos any differences are pretty subtle when comparing good examples to the latest and greatest.

Beyond cosmetics in modern acoustic piano sound terms can be measured in elephant years perhaps!

What do I know though. I'm just a peasant with a computer and a plastic keyboard.