Topic: Is KIViR dead?

I have been wondering this for a long time. On the website the KIViR project is presented as an ongoing project, aiming

to build a considerable collection of digital copies (original or restored) of historical instruments from all parts of the world. The collection will not only serve as a maintainable testimony of the past, with playable devices in museums available to the public, but will also provide data sources for creating new virtual instruments.

This was the essence of the scholarly and "charitable" side of Pianoteq, true to its academic origin - using Pianoteq's ever-improving technology to "preserve" historical instrument.

The release of the two Kremsegg and the Karsten collection, however, seemed to spell the end of it - which might make sense to the business operations, but it feels like a betrayal of the original KIViR project.

I really love the variety that KIViR has, and the KIViR's Érard is one of my go-to instruments on Pianoteq, together with the K2 and the New York Steinway. And I won't lie, I love knowing that I am playing Badura-Skoda's own Walter pianoforte.

That is why I wanted to ask all of you what you think of KIViR, if you think is still supported / maintained / you are aware of improvement of any KIViR instrument in recent PTQ updates, or if the project is still alive at all and we can expect new KIViR releases.

Last edited by Xain (02-08-2023 16:27)

Re: Is KIViR dead?

Xain wrote:

I have been wondering this for a long time. On the website the KIViR project is presented as an ongoing project, aiming

to build a considerable collection of digital copies (original or restored) of historical instruments from all parts of the world. The collection will not only serve as a maintainable testimony of the past, with playable devices in museums available to the public, but will also provide data sources for creating new virtual instruments.

This was the essence of the scholarly and "charitable" side of Pianoteq, true to its academic origin - using Pianoteq's ever-improving technology to "preserve" historical instrument.

The release of the two Kremsegg and the Karsten collection, however, seemed to spell the end of it - which might make sense to the business operations, but it feels like a betrayal of the original KIViR project.

I really love the variety that KIViR has, and the KIViR's Érard is one of my go-to instruments on Pianoteq, together with the K2 and the New York Steinway. And I won't lie, I love knowing that I am playing Badura-Skoda's own Walter pianoforte.

That is why I wanted to ask all of you what you think of KIViR, if you think is still supported / maintained / you are aware of improvement of any KIViR instrument in recent PTQ updates, or if the project is still alive at all and we can expect new KIViR releases.

most sadly, it does indeed seem to have been abandoned... :'(
https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php...15#p986315

Re: Is KIViR dead?

I have been playing these all week, they seem to have a singing quality that the more modern instruments lack. Hope the KIViR is given some more attention, thanks Xain, good post.

Nick

Re: Is KIViR dead?

Well... Money don't fall from sky like rain !

Each KiVIR modelled instrument take time and money to come up.

We had luck they created so many models for free.

Kremsseg 1 and Kremsegg 2 gave each 4 historic instruments for the price of one.
If they will bring more historic models, it will probably follow something like that.

Re: Is KIViR dead?

Beto-Music wrote:

Well... Money don't fall from sky like rain !

Each KiVIR modelled instrument take time and money to come up.

We had luck they created so many models for free.

Kremsseg 1 and Kremsegg 2 gave each 4 historic instruments for the price of one.
If they will bring more historic models, it will probably follow something like that.

We don't know what commission incentives, Government grants or whatever were involved at the time either.

I am happy that they continue to support the existing KIVIR and created 3d visuals for those instruments too.

Re: Is KIViR dead?

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