Topic: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

My two MPC-20 pedal controllers arrived today.
(I have eight Roland DP-10 pedals!)

However, working out which software/drivers to get them working with Pianoteq is proving to be very confusing - I'm quite new to this level of midi setup!

DOREMIDI have their own software called "Pedal Config Tool V.2.0" but I'm not sure if that's the best choice of software to be using.

Without using any 3rd-party software, Pianoteq only seems to receive a signal on midi channel 1, regardless of which pedal port is being used/mapped on the MPC-20.

Any advice/recommendations?

Many thanks!!

Last edited by Mark959 (27-04-2023 00:08)

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

Mark959 wrote:

My two MPC-20 pedal controllers arrived today.
(I have eight Roland DP-10 pedals!)

However, working out which software/drivers to get them working with Pianoteq is proving to be very confusing - I'm quite new to this level of midi setup!

DOREMIDI have their own software called "Pedal Config Tool V.2.0" but I'm not sure if that's the best choice of software to be using.

Without using any 3rd-party software, Pianoteq only seems to receive a signal on midi channel 1, regardless of which pedal port is being used/mapped on the MPC-20.

Any advice/recommendations?

Many thanks!!

  Congrats for your acquisition.

Ok, let me explain how it works, you have 3 things to configure

(1) Declare the pedals and configure them in the software that comes with doremidi. You ABSOLUTELY need to use this software as it will save the changes in the programmable memory of the converter .  I have attached a screenshot with one example on how to do it

(2) When the pedals are configured and attached via USB to your computer ,  in Pianoteq make sure you listen to all USB inputs . Go to Preferences menu , and select Devices Tab.
Then make sure you tick the box 'listen to all midi devices' ( quickest option)

(3) Make sure the pedal assignment in Pianoteq Corresponds to the pedal you added with right Midi Controller number identical to the one you have declared in Doremidi




How to use the Doremidi pedal configuration software , here is an example on how to configure a continuous sustain pedal in the 2nd input of one doremidi converter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pgJWoV...share_link


(1) Select the pedal number , ie in my example, it is  the 2nd pedal attached to a doremidi converter

(2) Choose the right type of pedal : expression ( for continuous) or Switch  ( on off)
Typically your DP 10 pedal  being continuous is going to be declared as an expression pedal, whereby a Sustenato pedal would be declared as a switch. You can off course declare a DP pedal as switch if needed.

(3) When the type of pedal is selected , update the  DATA1 and DATA2 sections corresponding to the type of pedal you have connected:

DATA1 will contain the controller number  and DATA 2 contain the value range.


It is a bit complex first time you do it, but by the time you configure your 8th pedal , you will an expert !

Hope it helps
Cheers

Last edited by joannchr (26-04-2023 21:41)

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

joannchr wrote:
Mark959 wrote:

My two MPC-20 pedal controllers arrived today.
(I have eight Roland DP-10 pedals!)

However, working out which software/drivers to get them working with Pianoteq is proving to be very confusing - I'm quite new to this level of midi setup!

DOREMIDI have their own software called "Pedal Config Tool V.2.0" but I'm not sure if that's the best choice of software to be using.

Without using any 3rd-party software, Pianoteq only seems to receive a signal on midi channel 1, regardless of which pedal port is being used/mapped on the MPC-20.

Any advice/recommendations?

Many thanks!!

  Congrats for your acquisition.

Ok, let me explain how it works, you have 3 things to configure

(1) declare the pedals and configure them in the software that comes with doremidi. You ABSOLUTELY need to use this software as it will save the changes in the programmable memory of the converter .  I have attached a screenshot with one example on how to do it

(2) When the pedals are configured and attached via USB to your computer ,  in Pianoteq make sure you listen to all USB inputs . Go to Preferences menu , and select Devices Tab.
Then make sure you tick the box 'listen to all midi devices' ( quickest option)

(3) Make sure the pedal assignment in Pianoteq Corresponds to the pedal you added with right Midi Controller number identical to the one you have declared in Doremidi




How to use the Doremidi pedal configuration software , here is an example on how to configure a continuous sustain pedal in the 2nd input of one doremidi converter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pgJWoV...share_link


(1) select the pedal number , ie in my examples its the 2nd pedal attached to a doremidi converter
(2) Choose the right type of pedal expression ( for continuous) or Switch for ( on off) Typically your DP 10 pedal  being continuous is going to be declared as an expression pedal, whereby a sustenato pedal would be declared as a switch

(3) when the type of pedal is selected , update the  DATA1 and DATA2 sections corresponding to the type of pedal you have connected

DATA1 will contain the controller number



Hope it helps
Cheers


That's absolutely amazing - I'll give this a try this evening!

Thanks!!

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

Mark959 wrote:
joannchr wrote:
Mark959 wrote:

My two MPC-20 pedal controllers arrived today.
(I have eight Roland DP-10 pedals!)

However, working out which software/drivers to get them working with Pianoteq is proving to be very confusing - I'm quite new to this level of midi setup!

DOREMIDI have their own software called "Pedal Config Tool V.2.0" but I'm not sure if that's the best choice of software to be using.

Without using any 3rd-party software, Pianoteq only seems to receive a signal on midi channel 1, regardless of which pedal port is being used/mapped on the MPC-20.

Any advice/recommendations?

Many thanks!!

  Congrats for your acquisition.

Ok, let me explain how it works, you have 3 things to configure

(1) declare the pedals and configure them in the software that comes with doremidi. You ABSOLUTELY need to use this software as it will save the changes in the programmable memory of the converter .  I have attached a screenshot with one example on how to do it

(2) When the pedals are configured and attached via USB to your computer ,  in Pianoteq make sure you listen to all USB inputs . Go to Preferences menu , and select Devices Tab.
Then make sure you tick the box 'listen to all midi devices' ( quickest option)

(3) Make sure the pedal assignment in Pianoteq Corresponds to the pedal you added with right Midi Controller number identical to the one you have declared in Doremidi




How to use the Doremidi pedal configuration software , here is an example on how to configure a continuous sustain pedal in the 2nd input of one doremidi converter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pgJWoV...share_link


(1) select the pedal number , ie in my examples its the 2nd pedal attached to a doremidi converter
(2) Choose the right type of pedal expression ( for continuous) or Switch for ( on off) Typically your DP 10 pedal  being continuous is going to be declared as an expression pedal, whereby a sustenato pedal would be declared as a switch

(3) when the type of pedal is selected , update the  DATA1 and DATA2 sections corresponding to the type of pedal you have connected

DATA1 will contain the controller number



Hope it helps
Cheers


That's absolutely amazing - I'll give this a try this evening!

Thanks!!


Yay! My digital piano now has more pedals than my acoustic piano!

Thanks again!!!

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

Mark959 wrote:
Mark959 wrote:
joannchr wrote:

  Congrats for your acquisition.

Ok, let me explain how it works, you have 3 things to configure

(1) declare the pedals and configure them in the software that comes with doremidi. You ABSOLUTELY need to use this software as it will save the changes in the programmable memory of the converter .  I have attached a screenshot with one example on how to do it

(2) When the pedals are configured and attached via USB to your computer ,  in Pianoteq make sure you listen to all USB inputs . Go to Preferences menu , and select Devices Tab.
Then make sure you tick the box 'listen to all midi devices' ( quickest option)

(3) Make sure the pedal assignment in Pianoteq Corresponds to the pedal you added with right Midi Controller number identical to the one you have declared in Doremidi




How to use the Doremidi pedal configuration software , here is an example on how to configure a continuous sustain pedal in the 2nd input of one doremidi converter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pgJWoV...share_link


(1) select the pedal number , ie in my examples its the 2nd pedal attached to a doremidi converter
(2) Choose the right type of pedal expression ( for continuous) or Switch for ( on off) Typically your DP 10 pedal  being continuous is going to be declared as an expression pedal, whereby a sustenato pedal would be declared as a switch

(3) when the type of pedal is selected , update the  DATA1 and DATA2 sections corresponding to the type of pedal you have connected

DATA1 will contain the controller number



Hope it helps
Cheers


That's absolutely amazing - I'll give this a try this evening!

Thanks!!


Yay! My digital piano now has more pedals than my acoustic piano!

Thanks again!!!

The 8-pedal setup works perfectly, it just needs a little something to improve the final outcome.............musical talent, that's it!!

https://soundcloud.com/mark-warren-9740...al_sharing

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

Mark959 wrote:
Mark959 wrote:
Mark959 wrote:

That's absolutely amazing - I'll give this a try this evening!

Thanks!!


Yay! My digital piano now has more pedals than my acoustic piano!

Thanks again!!!

The 8-pedal setup works perfectly, it just needs a little something to improve the final outcome.............musical talent, that's it!!

https://soundcloud.com/mark-warren-9740...al_sharing

Fantastic , It opens the door to many possibilities ! Beethoven was a fan of this ( Graf made a special piano for him with 5 pedals : 2 dampers, 2 2 felts and una corda, and fortepianos such as heichele and rosenberger had 6 pedals including bassoon (buzzing sound) and janisarry pedal (percussion sound).

Re: DOREMIDI pedal setup - Problem solved, thanks!!

joannchr wrote:
Mark959 wrote:
Mark959 wrote:

Yay! My digital piano now has more pedals than my acoustic piano!

Thanks again!!!

The 8-pedal setup works perfectly, it just needs a little something to improve the final outcome.............musical talent, that's it!!

https://soundcloud.com/mark-warren-9740...al_sharing

Fantastic , It opens the door to many possibilities ! Beethoven was a fan of this ( Graf made a special piano for him with 5 pedals : 2 dampers, 2 2 felts and una corda, and fortepianos such as heichele and rosenberger had 6 pedals including bassoon (buzzing sound) and janisarry pedal (percussion sound).


Thanks!
I think the buff stop pedal could do with the option of an even higher level of muting, as can be adjusted with the celeste pedal felt thickness.
The rattle pedal is the only 'percussion' pedal Pianoteq currently offers, perhaps there should be one or two more?
I've never really paid much attention to those obsolete piano effects, but now we can rediscover them!
My attempt at going 'Arabic' with the buff and rattle pedal sounds a bit cringey, so I need to find a more natural way to add those to a composition........