Pianoteq 8 just been released 16.11.2022 (Page 2 of 3)

Two new features I like...

1. We can toggle back and forth between the old interface and the new one.

2. We can toggle back and forth between the Pianoteq models and our native instrument (in my case, a Roland). I wouldn't often do this (if ever), but it's nice to have the option.

That's what I´m trying to figure out, if the extra tweak-ability justifies the cost of the Pro upgrade. I mostly use PTQ presets or have fun randomising them ad infinitum, so the pro isn't an obvious choice. Then again, I could just indulge in some good old-fashioned conspicuous GAS. Just don't tell my wife.

The only reasons I can see is being able to do things as I described at https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=8969 (tl;dr; I wanted the bass to be more bright without the midrange and treble becoming more bright too -- you can't do that in Standard yourself, but a friend could and you could load the preset --  you can't even load the preset if you have Stage).

If you have a similar need, and assuming you have Standard, I'd say go for it. Considering that you'll get an additional instrument (which alone costs $50) it's a good deal. If you really don't need anything like that, just get an instrument or two, perhaps waiting for when they are on sale, which sometimes are.

For #1 use the window menu and click on "use compact..." to go from the old interface to the new, or vice versa to go the other way.

I'm afraid to search for the other one right now because I tend to make a mistake and do something I find hard to reverse. I'm still learning this update.

I also found some shortcuts on the window menu... To go from fullscreen to regular the shotrcut is
Cont-Shift-F. That's a really useful one!

I'm really happy to have the upgrade, but I still hope we'll get a new piano before too long. I'm sure a lot of people will love the classical guitar, but it isn't something I'll use. There have been times that Modartt released instruments separately, haven't there? Oh well, I'll enjoy the enormous range of what we already have, but hope springs eternal.

I too would have loved a new grand piano and I hope it is in the works... however with this V8 I am rediscovering the Steinway D NY, especially the new "inside" preset which I love... as well as the other greatly improved presets...

I'm not hearing that. I set up a DAW project to play though the whole scale, alternating the two versions of the default NY Steinway D Classical preset and listened to it at several different velocities. To me the new voicing is "boxier" overall but pretty consistently so across the whole scale. If anything, I notice it more 3-4 octaves below that.

I haven't decided whether it's an improvement for me and my playing composing style, personally. I generally prefer brighter pianos but Pianoteq does tend to get a little 'electronic' sounding at higher velocities so maybe this is a good compromise. I do feel that it has a more commanding presence down lower that P7 was missing; it's a little esier to summon the "thunder" when you want it.

Strange, perhaps we are talking at cross purposes?
I refer to a wooden resonant thock sound - if you can forgive the use of onomatopoeia.

It's not the loudspeakers I don't hear it on other instruments and presets to anything like the same degree.

I wonder if there are accidental differences? I am using Standard.

I've never downloaded any of the FXPs, but I'd love to. If we download them, where are they stored? How do we find them so we can use them?

Many thanks for any guidance!

You can drag and drop them or you can click on them to open them. Then when you save them they will be saved to the instrument they are linked to. So a NY-D preset patch will be found in the NY-D list.
I tend to save them in a custom folder "Forum Presets"
In Windows you will find the the initial download place is in the download file folder.
In Pianoteq itself you can click on the list of presets for the folder location in your operating system. I'm not looking at it right now so I can't give you a better description.

Thank you so much!  That worked perfectly - so simple.  I opened it from my downloads file and saved it to "My Presets."  Then, within Pianoteq, I could find it under "My Presets" and also under the main instrument it was created from. 

This opens up a whole new world of possibilities.  There are so many brilliant presets created by Pianoteq users.

Glad that helped. I might have to retune some of those I have contributed there for version 8

My sample pianos went a while back.

Apart from Kontakt (and Reaktor which isn't getting enough love from them recently) NI are rapidly becoming a stack 'em high sell 'em cheap brand like Waves. They buy in developers and buy in products and brands to sell under their own brand.
That's not to say they don't do some good products in their vast range because they still do however I see them as very different animals.

Modartt are physical modelling specialists The pursuit of excellence first and foremost. Everything in terms of modelling is in house to the best of my knowledge.

What do you mean?
All your existing older purchases should be visible in Pianoteq 8.
Perhaps you have somehow bought Pianoteq 8 without tying it up to your existing license?

What is more if you look in your DAW you will see that version 7 is still there in projects.  So if you want to run the old versions of the same packs you can do a/b comparisons.

I said that.

Also it's just a hint in the B presets and makes the pianos sound more realistic.

As I said it's just a microphone positions. I think the preset needs adjustment to the new model, that's all.

What do you mean?
All your existing older purchases should be visible in Pianoteq 8.
Perhaps you have somehow bought Pianoteq 8 without tying it up to your existing license?
What is more if you look in your DAW you will see that version 7 is still there in projects.  So if you want to run the old versions of the same packs you can do a/b comparisons.

Ill try to figure it out ... when registered 8 I had to pick 3 instrument packs ... i picked guitar and 2 I had already  Petrof and Steinways.. my favorites  so at least I have them... sound so freakin' good...

Yup... some how I did that ... I have been upgrading since version 5  and never messed it up ... always something Ill try to figure out the up grade somehow.. I sent email to Modartt ..I am not worried as I know they will fix it ..mean while loving it!   And yes $29 would be nicer than the $201.75..ha...

Has anyone tried the new "note effects" button/menu yet?

I cant stop playing !! It even sounds better through my cheapo monitor sparkers... M-Audio BX5s and M-Audio Sub and of course in my various headphones it's fantastic. Just sayin'

Thank you so much Modartt and all the Modartt team for the superb update that is Pianoteq 8. Wow! What an incredible update! And the sound and realism has come on in leaps and bounds. Thank you again dear friends. Feels like family!!!

Warmest regards,

Chris

The reworking of the piano models in version 8 is major. Anybody doing a serious A/B with the previous version will hear how much some of the models are improved: the Steinway D New York, for one,  is massively better. IMHO it's Modartt's crowning achievement. From the tinyest pppp to the fff thunderous bass register, you can feel its size and depth, and how incredibly expressive it has become. The YC5 is also radically better, the U4 and Grotrian much improved. The Vintage reeds W2 is like a completely new instrument! All that for a mere 29 euros/dollars. How many grand pianos does one need? Come on.

I think the improved sound it's not just due revoicing of the piano models. The website also said the physical model was refined in V8.

    Whatever it is the users are very pleased overall.

I see some of the the folks over at Pianoclack forum strongly disagree (I'm not a member there). They seem to think we our a bunch of easily pleased hive mind chumps but if the Kool-Aid tastes this good bring it on!

Just bought the update to v8, because I am convinced Pianoteq and the idea of physical modeling is great.
I read most user like its sound better than before. I read "less metallic", "rounded", "more wood"... Hm. I love the K2 which I use in my current Logic project, and I copied the piano track and inserted Pianoteq 8 instead of 7. My first impression was: The sound lacks brilliance. I compared the settings rather pedantically but found no difference. I just miss some steel and elegance in shape, it sounds more synthetical to me... Maybe I can compensate it a little bit by adjusting the hammer hardness or so.

Well, as it happens K2 indeed is a synthetic model, meaning it doesn’t exist IRL.

Is this just me I hear less noise with this version. I mean pedal noise, key release noise, damper noise...
I always like those because of more natural feeling.

I don't think anyone else has mentioned it, but I think the reverb sounds generally better in v8.