Pianoteq 5 (Page 2 of 4)

I haven't found any detailed list of those new models/instruments.
Did you retrieve those details from the video, or is there a pre announcement document somewhere ?
If so, which (if any) of those historical instruments are "bundled" ?
i.e. are they KIVir or are they fxps that require for example purchase of the Bluthner ?

BTW, your suggestion to change the midi file that comes as the demo in the midi player;
I agree, it DOES sound a bit weird with some of the instruments/pre-sets. 
Perhaps the demo midi file could be chosen according to the instrument pre-set, e.g. something MUCH MORE appropriate to the period for the electric pianos

Well resonance sounds different on every piano...

Well this is very exciting.

I bought Pianoteq Stage last week.

I already own Ivory II American Steinway D and Italian Grand, and I'm playing them with a Casio PX-350 which IMO makes a great MIDI controller.

I was attracted to Pianoteq because it makes the keyboard feel more alive than Ivory II, but when I play with the sustain pedal, Pianoteq sounds just a tiny bit artificial.

I find myself going back to the Ivory II American Steinway but wishing both would make an upgrade. Ivory II sounds more like a piano, but it feels two dimensional under my fingers. Pianoteq is three dimensional, but it doesn't sound enough like a piano. I can really get lost in both worlds, but I'm not 100% satisfied.

I also just love all of the varieties of sounds you can get out of Pianoteq, even with the Stage software.

I have a feeling Pianoteq is going to make great strides with this new upgrade and reflect more the soul of a real piano.

I believe the new version will sound better, given the new algorithm for string and soundboard modeling.
The new historical pianos will probably sounds great.

But the models that already exist may not get so much extra benefits  as a new commercials modesl that would be coming, since a new model would be designed from sketch to use the new algorithm while the old models (V4.5) were not.
just my humble guess...

Since pianoteq first version most the the historical pianos sounded a bit better in terms of naturality. I presume the iron harp of modern era pianos it's more challenging for modeling technology
Let's see how the new Bechstein sounds, since it is close to a modern piano than the others new historical pianos coming in V5.

I have no problem with you not agreeing with me. I find Pianoteq's silent-key string resonance just fine and actually quite ok compared to my upright back home.

Different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for your feedback.

You can see a picture of each instrument in the Preset Manager. Maybe you can have that window open while playing?

Regarding news, we only post news when we have something new to tell... I can promise that we will post something next month...

Pianos should definitely be the primary focus of Pianoteq.  That being said, the steel pans, tubular bells, church bells and vibes are spectacular!  I would be very reluctant to discourage development of other models that work well in this architecture.  As long as they don't split their resources into separate platforms...DrumTeq, StringTeq, BrassTeq.   Hmmm...now that I see it in writing, hire some more people and get to work on those, right away!  Just kidding...kind of. 
   -Perry-

Quote Studiocat: "DrumTeq, StringTeq, BrassTeq.   Hmmm..."

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I think guitars, drums and other kinds of instruments may be or may be not a good idea.

If the time and investment required is relatively low, for a drum or guitar, and the finantial return it' fine, it can generate more ressources to invest in the making of great piano models.

Violoncellemuse, I supose you are right about K2 model.

My talk of "DrumTeq", "BrassTeq", etc. was somewhat sarcastic.  I purchased Pianoteq for the pianos!
   I am very happy with them as they are, yet very excited to see them developed even further!

       -Perry-

@ niclas fogwall

oh yes, now I found the pictures of the instruments, I never noticed them before, my mistake.

concerning the news: i think your much too modest: imho the sneak preview of the musikmesse really IS news, and good news indeed! - but i found it in the forum, after searching a while. I can imagine, that other customers, who wouldnt have the time to search through your forum, would be happy to find a link to it in the news section. but of course I too can appreciate the idea of not building up fake news every day only to keep customers busy.

I happily look forward to next month, thanx and good luck!

@ notyetconvicted

don't be too harsh on me. I didn't want to start a competition about which instrument may be more important than the other, its simply a personal WISH. different people, different interests, you know... and i happen to actually be quite happy with the pianos  - and even if i embrace every further evolution of them: the idea of adding a concert GUITAR based on the same architecture and with the astonishing dynamic posibilities THRILLS me!! yes, the pianos made me appetite for more - so shoot me!

And talking about "competencies": if modartt wasn't so brillantly competent in building such instruments, i wouldn't have mentioned the idea in the first place.

but i see the point: At the end of the day its a question of ressources. - just like three kids having only one bicycle: is only one of them allowed to ride it and the others have to sit an cry? or do they share...

wherever it goes, it will be fun, we're in the same boat, the sea is wide and stars above us!

NotyetCONVICTED :-). Keep calm, I'm no criminal. My nick is NotyetCONVINCED :-).

It's not possible to play a keyboard like a guitar. So why does the world need guitar sounds for keyboards at all? Guitars are not that expensive and used very often. By the way: There are modelling techniques to be triggered by real guitars.

I think it is right that most of us only need imitations of natural sounds and electric pianos for practical and economic reasons. Not everyone can afford a real piano and has enough space. I don't want and can't afford to carry around my baby grand and mic it every time I want to record something just as little as I can pay a string ensemble every time I need strings or want to buy chromatic percussion I only need on rare occasions.

I was just thinking this the other day. I've been checking out Hauptwerk sampled organs, and it's quite huge in file size. A modeled organ would be a fraction of the size, of course. Plus all the parameters that are possible with modeling to play with.

UuuHhnnn... The sound samples did not impressed me very much.

there is a free trial version. try it ! :-)
This being said, it's not Hauptwerk I must admit

Sound samples, or they should've better said "examples"

http://www.virtualorgancompany.com/virt...amples.asp

Yes I tried them both. Well, no, in fact, I actually USE them both !!! Behind a choir, and/or for a basso continuo, it's just what's needed most of the time. And the rest of the time I use Pianoteq, of course ! :-)

MP3 samples... mp3 examples...

Anyway it did not impressed me.

Yes Jake, but a "positief" (also named "choir"...) is not conceived to be a "strong" sound anyway. Then, what I did sometimes is to create 2 VST instances, one of them an octave lower, so you can detune it slightly and have a deeper sound. EZ.

Just a short post to let you all know that we are as eager as you to see version 5 released! There are still quite a few details to fix, but we should definitely be ready before the end of May.

Reworked.

Since, I'm assuming, there will still be legacy versions of these models, they should all (including previous) go in a separate category in the patches list for organization. Having them is great for older projects, but I probably wouldn't go back to them for a new project as I'd most likely choose between the latest models.  That way it looks much cleaner just looking at one version (the latest) of each piano.

Can't wait for all of these reworked/rebuilt and new pianos!

Isn't K2 a complete rebuilt from K1?  Or just reworked?

If YC5 sounded as natural a the actual U4...  It wll be breathtaking.

Forgive to push too much...

But... Is K2 the best model now in terms of piano sound naturality?

Just let MODARTT finish their job.