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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: YouTube Pianoteq Performance -- Two Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very Good, I liked.&nbsp; Good Job.</p><p>Here a interisting piano duet that would also sound interesting in a pianoteq duet.</p><p>Part 1-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5p4eyJ5VSI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5p4eyJ5VSI</a><br />Part 2-&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFM_T13o6xQ&amp;feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFM_T13o...re=related</a></p><p>It&#039;s a Fazioli and a Bosendorfer.<br />We also hear a lot of reverb, but even so the performance it&#039;s still nice.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-18T18:18:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: YouTube Pianoteq Performance -- Two Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p><p>Yes, I would very much like to hear a much more intimate setting. Thanks in advance!<br />(By the way, I didn&#039;t listen to this on headphones but on my studio monitors. I only mention it to say that the excessive amount of reverb isn&#039;t an exclusive headphone feature.)</p><p>_</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Piet De Ridder]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-18T06:29:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: YouTube Pianoteq Performance -- Two Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One minor complaint : I feel when closing my eyes and listening through headphones, that the pianos are too far apart, and although it helps in separating both parts, real players must be closer together I suppose, and that destroys a bit the sense that this is a real piano duo.</p></blockquote></div><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Piet wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Far too much reverb, I think. It almost sounds as if this was recorded in one of those huge halls where they normally put aeroplanes to bed. Apart from the fact that this &#039;spacial hugeness&#039; sounds a bit strange around just two pianos (to my ears anyway) and that it prevents the instruments from ever connecting with one another, it also has a rather negative influence on the musical texture and dynamics because plenty of detail seems to dissolve in the reverb-drenched sound before it is able to reach the listener.<br />And I agree with Gilles: there seems to be an awful lot of space between the two instruments as well.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hello Gentlemen,</p><p>Your above observations are quite true in my mind as well:&nbsp; Especially when listening through headphones, the pianos sound way too far apart and they are bathed in too much liquid reverb.</p><p>Although I did use the Binaural settings, this was done on purpose to make an impact on YouTube viewers who simply watch and listen through conventional computer speakers.&nbsp; When listened through a conventional computer monitor setup, one hears each piano panned to left / right, and the reverb is not as nearly excessive as the performance sounds through good headphones.</p><p>In my opening statement, I specifically stated that no third party hardware (EQ, Reverb, Compression, etc) was used in this presentation.&nbsp; Personally my intended overuse of panning and reverb (especially when listening through headphones) points out the versatility of Pianoteq&#039;s reverb and microphone settings!&nbsp; It IS possible to pan things way too far left and way too far right, and to bathe the sound in far too much reverb -- especially when listened in headphones.&nbsp; I believe there was another thread where one correspondent was concerned he could not pan the piano quite as far to the left and right as he would have preferred.</p><p>However, when presenting to a worldwide audience via YouTube and conventional computer monitor speakers, the sound is more palpable.</p><br /><p>If there is interest in hearing a different sonic perspective, just say so, and I shall prepare a version that brings the pianos&#039; sounds much closer together and in a more intimate surrounding.</p><p>Thank you very much for your responses so far.&nbsp; Additional thoughts and comments from other members are sincerely encouraged and welcomed.&nbsp; What a great forum this is that we are free to speak our hearts and minds.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jcfelice88keys]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-18T04:13:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Performance - faultless!</p><p>You&#039;ll have to change your name to jcfelice176keys!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-12-17T15:42:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Far too much reverb, I think. It almost sounds as if this was recorded in one of those huge halls where they normally put aeroplanes to bed. Apart from the fact that this &#039;spacial hugeness&#039; sounds a bit strange around just two pianos (to my ears anyway) and that it prevents the instruments from ever connecting with one another, it also has a rather negative influence on the musical texture and dynamics because plenty of detail seems to dissolve in the reverb-drenched sound before it is able to reach the listener.<br />And I agree with Gilles: there seems to be an awful lot of space between the two instruments as well.</p><p>I think the whole thing might work a lot better if the scale of this production is drastically reduced: a medium size room or chamber, the two instrument side-by-side and the listener(s) just a few meters in front of them.</p><p>But the playing is certainly most entertaining. Well done.</p><p>_</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Piet De Ridder]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-12-17T14:51:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Only one thing to say : &#039;s Wonderful !</p><p>Musical virtuosity at its best...as always from you!</p><p>Great demo of a new possibility and proof that ptq can have that crisp sound jazz requires.</p><p>One minor complaint : I feel when closing my eyes and listening through headphones, that the pianos are too far apart, and although it helps in separating both parts, real players must be closer together I suppose, and that destroys a bit the sense that this is a real piano duo.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-12-17T13:56:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[YouTube Pianoteq Performance -- Two Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello Fellow Pianoteqqies,</p><p>I have uploaded George Gershwin&#039;s two-piano arrangement of his own I&#039;ve Got Rhythm Variations, where Yours Truly plays both parts via second piano overdub.&nbsp; Here is the URL:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTgsBEkSHL8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTgsBEkSHL8</a></p><p>The pianos are panned left and right, exclusively, by careful positioning of the Binaural Head-shaped Microphones.&nbsp; No third party processing, EQ, reverb, panning, compression, etc., were used in this performance.&nbsp; All effects and settings you hear in this video are available out-of-the box. </p><p>Your opinions and comments are welcomed regarding the performance, piano settings, overall sound and anything else that strikes your fancy.</p><p>Enjoy,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-12-17T03:59:25Z</updated>
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