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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe they will bring out a CLAP version?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You are right. We&#039;re talking about a want, not a need. I&#039;m at an early stage in my development both on the piano and PTQ, but for some crazy reason I have an insatiable hunger for more, once I read about the possibility. I didn&#039;t even think about it until I saw this thread. We are not talking about a rational thinking process.</p></blockquote></div><p>Of course those that enjoyed the more prolific periods did so when they didn&#039;t already have so many models. You&#039;ve already got them up front. Possibilities endless. Yes our consumerism isn&#039;t rational. </p><p>When we&#039;ve already got quality and quantity further refinements in the quality are the most welcome updates of all. </p><p>iOS and Organteq 2 sound most likely contenders for attention first.</p></blockquote></div><p>You are right. Despite my joking, I don&#039;t need anything more. I&#039;ll never live long enough to use even a fraction of what I already have. Getting more instruments never entered my mind until I started reading all the fantasies of Faziolis, etc. What I most need is to practice more!</p></blockquote></div><p>If I was several hundred times better I would still need that too. <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p>We&#039;ll be consuming new virtual instruments soon enough (Modartt knows that), and not because we need to, that ship sailed long ago.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 19:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe they will bring out a CLAP version?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would be surprised if they don&#039;t add at least one or two new models to Pianoteq before the end of the year, but there is so many ways to shape and balance the sounds in the existing presets, it&#039;s already almost infinite!<br />&nbsp; Frankly I would rather see further improvements to the engine than yet more pianos (welcome though they are)&nbsp; - though of course what you are saying does somewhat imply they are kind of obliged to come up with something new, if only for Studio users!<br />Some will have bought Studio in prolific years -others not so. I guess them&#039;s the breaks!</p></blockquote></div><p>You are right. We&#039;re talking about a want, not a need. I&#039;m at an early stage in my development both on the piano and PTQ, but for some crazy reason I have an insatiable hunger for more, once I read about the possibility. I didn&#039;t even think about it until I saw this thread. We are not talking about a rational thinking process.</p></blockquote></div><p>Of course those that enjoyed the more prolific periods did so when they didn&#039;t already have so many models. You&#039;ve already got them up front. Possibilities endless. Yes our consumerism isn&#039;t rational. </p><p>When we&#039;ve already got quality and quantity further refinements in the quality are the most welcome updates of all. </p><p>iOS and Organteq 2 sound most likely contenders for attention first.</p></blockquote></div><p>You are right. Despite my joking, I don&#039;t need anything more. I&#039;ll never live long enough to use even a fraction of what I already have. Getting more instruments never entered my mind until I started reading all the fantasies of Faziolis, etc. What I most need is to practice more!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 18:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they will bring out a CLAP version?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hope Pianoteq gets something new! I just started this year, and never considered that, but now I really want it! I splurged and upgraded to the studio edition, because I find PTQ irresistible. So I&#039;ll get anything new for free, if it&#039;s within the one year grace period.</p></blockquote></div><p>I would be surprised if they don&#039;t add at least one or two new models to Pianoteq before the end of the year, but there is so many ways to shape and balance the sounds in the existing presets, it&#039;s already almost infinite!<br />&nbsp; Frankly I would rather see further improvements to the engine than yet more pianos (welcome though they are)&nbsp; - though of course what you are saying does somewhat imply they are kind of obliged to come up with something new, if only for Studio users!<br />Some will have bought Studio in prolific years -others not so. I guess them&#039;s the breaks!</p></blockquote></div><p>You are right. We&#039;re talking about a want, not a need. I&#039;m at an early stage in my development both on the piano and PTQ, but for some crazy reason I have an insatiable hunger for more, once I read about the possibility. I didn&#039;t even think about it until I saw this thread. We are not talking about a rational thinking process.</p></blockquote></div><p>Of course those that enjoyed the more prolific periods did so when they didn&#039;t already have so many models. You&#039;ve already got them up front. Possibilities endless. Yes our consumerism isn&#039;t rational. </p><p>When we&#039;ve already got quality and quantity further refinements in the quality are the most welcome updates of all. </p><p>iOS and Organteq 2 sound most likely contenders for attention first.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 15:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, I do hope Modartt&#039;s &#039;silent period&#039; heralds something big. Updates from Modartt are always a pleasant surprise, and well worth the wait <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>I think this lull is likely heralding the release of the iOS/iPad OS version of Pianoteq. Will be curious to see how the business model is implemented. I hope existing owners either get free access to the iOS version or, at the least, get access to it at a strongly discounted price. I expect it will follow the “freemium” model, where a demo download is free but you pay an in-app-purchase to get access to full/enhanced functionality.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hope Pianoteq gets something new! I just started this year, and never considered that, but now I really want it! I splurged and upgraded to the studio edition, because I find PTQ irresistible. So I&#039;ll get anything new for free, if it&#039;s within the one year grace period.</p></blockquote></div><p>I would be surprised if they don&#039;t add at least one or two new models to Pianoteq before the end of the year, but there is so many ways to shape and balance the sounds in the existing presets, it&#039;s already almost infinite!<br />&nbsp; Frankly I would rather see further improvements to the engine than yet more pianos (welcome though they are)&nbsp; - though of course what you are saying does somewhat imply they are kind of obliged to come up with something new, if only for Studio users!<br />Some will have bought Studio in prolific years -others not so. I guess them&#039;s the breaks!</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t feel they have an obligation to give me something new for free. It was never a guarantee, just a protection against feeling it was unfair if something new came out shortly after such a big purchase. I think PTQ is an amazing company, and what they offer is well worth what they charge.</p><p>You are right. We&#039;re talking about a want, not a need. I&#039;m at an early stage in my development both on the piano and PTQ, but for some crazy reason I have an insatiable hunger for more, once I read about the possibility. I didn&#039;t even think about it until I saw this thread. We are not talking about a rational thinking process.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh, so it looks as though Pianoteq users are going to need a bit more patience! As much as I enjoy listening to recordings of Organteq, it&#039;s not really my thing - I wouldn&#039;t use it often enough to justify the expense.</p></blockquote></div><p>I hope Pianoteq gets something new! I just started this year, and never considered that, but now I really want it! I splurged and upgraded to the studio edition, because I find PTQ irresistible. So I&#039;ll get anything new for free, if it&#039;s within the one year grace period.</p></blockquote></div><p>I would be surprised if they don&#039;t add at least one or two new models to Pianoteq before the end of the year, but there is so many ways to shape and balance the sounds in the existing presets, it&#039;s already almost infinite!<br />&nbsp; Frankly I would rather see further improvements to the engine than yet more pianos (welcome though they are)&nbsp; - though of course what you are saying does somewhat imply they are kind of obliged to come up with something new, if only for Studio users!<br />Some will have bought Studio in prolific years -others not so. I guess them&#039;s the breaks!</p></blockquote></div><p>You are right. We&#039;re talking about a want, not a need. I&#039;m at an early stage in my development both on the piano and PTQ, but for some crazy reason I have an insatiable hunger for more, once I read about the possibility. I didn&#039;t even think about it until I saw this thread. We are not talking about a rational thinking process.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 02:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh, so it looks as though Pianoteq users are going to need a bit more patience! As much as I enjoy listening to recordings of Organteq, it&#039;s not really my thing - I wouldn&#039;t use it often enough to justify the expense.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I totally agree with this sentiment. I wish they&#039;d give a discount (in addition to seasonal sales) on Organteq equal to the amount of dollars you spent on Pianoteq divided by ten: so if you spent $150 on Stage, you get 15% more off, if you spent $450 on Pro you get a big 45% off and if you spent $900 on Studio you get a whopping 90% off (but hey, they&#039;ve got already a grand from you...)</p><p>To somewhat enforce just the occasional organ use by pianists who are getting such discounts, this version may come with a time limitation, or some other limitation to prevent people use it from recordings (but no key limitation like in the demo).</p><p>On these terms, I&#039;d consider buying Organteq. At full price, I cannot justify it and I&#039;d rather use jOrgan (most likely, have still to make my mind) or one of the other free ones.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 23:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#039;s what I&#039;m really hoping for, some refinements to the engine. But, hey ho, if new instruments come along I&#039;m bound to be sorely tempted...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BarbaraRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh, so it looks as though Pianoteq users are going to need a bit more patience! As much as I enjoy listening to recordings of Organteq, it&#039;s not really my thing - I wouldn&#039;t use it often enough to justify the expense.</p></blockquote></div><p>I hope Pianoteq gets something new! I just started this year, and never considered that, but now I really want it! I splurged and upgraded to the studio edition, because I find PTQ irresistible. So I&#039;ll get anything new for free, if it&#039;s within the one year grace period.</p></blockquote></div><p>I would be surprised if they don&#039;t add at least one or two new models to Pianoteq before the end of the year, but there is so many ways to shape and balance the sounds in the existing presets, it&#039;s already almost infinite!<br />&nbsp; Frankly I would rather see further improvements to the engine than yet more pianos (welcome though they are)&nbsp; - though of course what you are saying does somewhat imply they are kind of obliged to come up with something new, if only for Studio users!<br />Some will have bought Studio in prolific years -others not so. I guess them&#039;s the breaks!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh, so it looks as though Pianoteq users are going to need a bit more patience! As much as I enjoy listening to recordings of Organteq, it&#039;s not really my thing - I wouldn&#039;t use it often enough to justify the expense.</p></blockquote></div><p>I hope Pianoteq gets something new! I just started this year, and never considered that, but now I really want it! I splurged and upgraded to the studio edition, because I find PTQ irresistible. So I&#039;ll get anything new for free, if it&#039;s within the one year grace period.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so it looks as though Pianoteq users are going to need a bit more patience! As much as I enjoy listening to recordings of Organteq, it&#039;s not really my thing - I wouldn&#039;t use it often enough to justify the expense.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Organteq 2 apparently in the wings. So I doubt much as going to happen with Pianoteq beyond a new model pack or two this year.&quot;</p><p>We Organteq users have been waiting patiently for the arrival on stage of the heralded new version.</p><p>Of course, if patience was a vice we would all have far more of it!!</p><p>Checks email again to see if there has been any announcement ..... sigh ..... practices more patience.</p><p>Michael</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, I do hope Modartt&#039;s &#039;silent period&#039; heralds something big. Updates from Modartt are always a pleasant surprise, and well worth the wait <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>Organteq 2 apparently in the wings. So I doubt much as going to happen with Pianoteq beyond a new model pack or two this year. </p><p>I only just noticed this in another forum - I must have missed that newsletter, or not read about goings on with Organteq because I haven&#039;t gone for that product:</p><p><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=8890">https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=8890</a></p><p>I would have thought people would want models of the Hammond organs . Maybe those are coming with Organteq 2?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 13:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do hope Modartt&#039;s &#039;silent period&#039; heralds something big. Updates from Modartt are always a pleasant surprise, and well worth the wait <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 13:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, I don&#039;t think Modartt have got anything to worry about at the moment! I tried the Arturia Piano V demo. It&#039;s OK, and if Pianoteq didn&#039;t exist I might even be reasonably happy with it. But it doesn&#039;t seem to do anything that can&#039;t be achieved in Pianoteq.</p></blockquote></div><p>I recently played piano v3. It has made a lot of progress and felt a different attraction from Pianoteq. Does the long absence of any updates by pianoteq mean that it is preparing for much better progress than it is now? I am full of expectations.&nbsp; &nbsp;<i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2022 22:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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