<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title><![CDATA[Modartt user forum - Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
		<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=9652</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The most recent posts in Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos.]]></description>
		<lastBuildDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:16:16 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<generator>PunBB</generator>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=989043#p989043</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>marciohas wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was able to buy the Synthogy Ivory American Concert D for $100 and I can say that the piano sound is spectacular. Now I&#039;ve been using Ivory American D, Keyscape, Noire and C7 from Sampletank 4. I&#039;ll wait for black friday to try to buy pianoteq Standard.</p></blockquote></div><p>I know this is not the purpose of the forum, but I&#039;m selling a Synthogy Ivory American Concert D license for 125 dollars, if anyone is interested just search the ad on knobcloud</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Mvml)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=989043#p989043</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985180#p985180</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>marciohas wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s a matter of taste.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, only partially (pun intended, I suppose). Pianoteq&#039;s soundboard and string interaction modelling, for example, is objectively superior to that of other software pianos, and it objectively responds more like a real piano than any sampled instrument. Anyone who doubts that simply doesn&#039;t know enough about real pianos.</p><p>Whether you actually like the timbre of Pianoteq (and this varies significantly per instrument) is indeed a matter of taste -- you may find Noire, or whatever, more pleasant-sounding (I personally quite like it). Apparently there are even people who don&#039;t like the sound of a real Steinway.</p><p>And it seems Version 8 is upon us! Very exciting.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Pianophile)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985180#p985180</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985163#p985163</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s a matter of taste. Using the trial version of Pianoteq 7 I found the features amazing, but the sound doesn&#039;t please me (it doesn&#039;t sound like real to me). Let&#039;s see if with this upgrade of Pianoteq 8 (soon that&#039;s what it says on the download page of Pianoteq) if there are improvements in the timbres.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianophile wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I personally dislike Ivory quite strongly. Pianoteq 7 is a far better virtual instrument. It sounds better, much more alive and with much better soundboard resonance and interaction between the strings. And it&#039;s infinitely more playable. The soundboard modelling on Ivory is a joke, as far as I&#039;m concerned. I stopped playing it some time ago. </p><p>Then again, I generally feel that the days of sampled pianos are essentially over -- the problem doesn&#039;t lie specifically with Ivory. Piano sampling is an unwieldy, unsophisticated, obsolete technology and I literally don&#039;t buy it anymore.</p><p>Playing a sampled instrument is like playing a corpse. Sometimes I play my Garritan CFX, only to be shocked once again by how frustrating it is to play compared to Pianoteq. Its soundboard resonance modelling is unconvincing -- way over the top and just weird-sounding. And its noisefloor is shocking, especially when you&#039;re playing complex parts; the noise in all the individual samples just piles up. </p><p>I recently bought a beautiful second-hand Grotrian-Steinweg grand (a Cabinet 192 from 1990) and I can switch back and forth pretty seamlessly between Pianoteq (played through the Kawai VPC1) and the Grotrian. Pieces which I practice on the VPC1/Pianoteq translate very well to the Grotrian, without a need to adjust my playing much. That&#039;s because Pianoteq responds like a real instrument -- instead of playing back prerecorded notes, with some thin-sounding overtones and static sustain resonance thrown in. The Garritan CFX and Ivory work fine for, say, a piano part in a pop song but they&#039;re unsuitable for serious classical or jazz playing.</p><p>For hardware digital pianos, too, physical modelling has by now overtaken sampling in terms of sound quality. I&#039;d choose the sound of a Roland LX708 over even that of a high-end sampled instrument like the Yamaha N1X any day (though the keyboard on the N1X is arguably better).</p><p>None of this means that Pianoteq is &#039;perfect&#039; of course. I&#039;d rather play a fantastic, perfectly tuned and maintained Steinway D in a great-sounding concert hall. Or my Grotrian grand in my living room. But in my view sampled software pianos can no longer hold a candle to Pianoteq (played on a good controller, and through a decent interface and speakers).</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (marciohas)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985163#p985163</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985155#p985155</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I personally dislike Ivory quite strongly. Pianoteq 7 is a far better virtual instrument. It sounds better, much more alive and with much better soundboard resonance and interaction between the strings. And it&#039;s infinitely more playable. The soundboard modelling on Ivory is a joke, as far as I&#039;m concerned. I stopped playing it some time ago. </p><p>Then again, I generally feel that the days of sampled pianos are essentially over -- the problem doesn&#039;t lie specifically with Ivory. Piano sampling is an unwieldy, unsophisticated, obsolete technology and I literally don&#039;t buy it anymore.</p><p>Playing a sampled instrument is like playing a corpse. Sometimes I play my Garritan CFX, only to be shocked once again by how frustrating it is to play compared to Pianoteq. Its soundboard resonance modelling is unconvincing -- way over the top and just weird-sounding. And its noisefloor is shocking, especially when you&#039;re playing complex parts; the noise in all the individual samples just piles up. </p><p>I recently bought a beautiful second-hand Grotrian-Steinweg grand (a Cabinet 192 from 1990) and I can switch back and forth pretty seamlessly between Pianoteq (played through the Kawai VPC1) and the Grotrian. Pieces which I practice on the VPC1/Pianoteq translate very well to the Grotrian, without a need to adjust my playing much. That&#039;s because Pianoteq responds like a real instrument -- instead of playing back prerecorded notes, with some thin-sounding overtones and static sustain resonance thrown in. The Garritan CFX and Ivory work fine for, say, a piano part in a pop song but they&#039;re unsuitable for serious classical or jazz playing.</p><p>For hardware digital pianos, too, physical modelling has by now overtaken sampling in terms of sound quality. I&#039;d choose the sound of a Roland LX708 over even that of a high-end sampled instrument like the Yamaha N1X any day (though the keyboard on the N1X is arguably better).</p><p>None of this means that Pianoteq is &#039;perfect&#039; of course. I&#039;d rather play a fantastic, perfectly tuned and maintained Steinway D in a great-sounding concert hall. Or my Grotrian grand in my living room. But in my view sampled software pianos can no longer hold a candle to Pianoteq (played on a good controller, and through a decent interface and speakers).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Pianophile)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985155#p985155</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985133#p985133</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was able to buy the Synthogy Ivory American Concert D for $100 and I can say that the piano sound is spectacular. Now I&#039;ve been using Ivory American D, Keyscape, Noire and C7 from Sampletank 4. I&#039;ll wait for black friday to try to buy pianoteq Standard.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (marciohas)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2022 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=985133#p985133</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=983823#p983823</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>marciohas wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Good afternoon. I have the following question of which piano software to buy? For being with a close value, I arrived in these two softwares: Pianoteq 7 Standart and Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos. I would like your opinion, if you have already used both, which one did you like more? Thank you very much in advance.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi marciohas,</p><p>As right now, I don&#039;t have Synthology Ivory II and also never try one. Judging by the amount of Library (112GB vs 250MB&gt;), I definitely go with Pianoteq that currently on sale. You should be able to download and try it first &quot;For Free&quot; before decided to spend your money. That&#039;s the benefits with Pianoteq.</p><p>If you ask which library I recommend for you to get, probably Steingraber, Steinway B, and one of the Petrof you prefer. So far those aremy favorite one.</p><p>Good luck with your choice.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dulistan heman)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=983823#p983823</guid>
		</item>
		<item>
			<title><![CDATA[Pianoteq Standart or Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=983822#p983822</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon. I have the following question of which piano software to buy? For being with a close value, I arrived in these two softwares: Pianoteq 7 Standart and Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos. I would like your opinion, if you have already used both, which one did you like more? Thank you very much in advance.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (marciohas)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=983822#p983822</guid>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
