Nick

I have a TC Electronic DVR250-DT (digital vintage reverb). It comes with a hardware interface, great sound including Space reverb.

Although I could use it for general playing in a DAW, I only use it in post production for my audio and video recordings. It sounds best with the TC full wet and using the sends.

Nick

Thank you, Nick.

Although I could use it for general playing in a DAW, I only use it in post production for my audio and video recordings. It sounds best with the TC full wet and using the sends.

Nick

Lycomedes wrote:

Key Fumbler wrote:

Should we take it then that you only use Pianoteq for recordings, and you prefer a real piano for your own playing pleasure?

No, that's not what I said.

Never mind then. It's just that the way worded it made it sound like you were only using Pianoteq altruistically!

I view Pianoteq as a tool I'm using for the purpose of reaching people with my music.  I'm interested in how to use it optimally and how to solve percieved flaws in the sound.

Key Fumbler wrote:

Lycomedes wrote:

I should clarify: I'm not playing with Pianoteq for my own amusement.  I want to reach people with my music.  That's why it worries me when people claim that the sound of Pianoteq isn't "warm".  I don't agree with that statement, but I do find that the attack part of the sound is sometimes lacking in richness compared to a real or well-sampled grand.

Should we take it then that you only use Pianoteq for recordings, and you prefer a real piano for your own playing pleasure?

No, that's not what I said.

Never mind then. It's just that the way worded it made it sound like you were only using Pianoteq altruistically!

Lycomedes wrote:

I should clarify: I'm not playing with Pianoteq for my own amusement.  I want to reach people with my music.  That's why it worries me when people claim that the sound of Pianoteq isn't "warm".  I don't agree with that statement, but I do find that the attack part of the sound is sometimes lacking in richness compared to a real or well-sampled grand.

Should we take it then that you only use Pianoteq for recordings, and you prefer a real piano for your own playing pleasure?

No, that's not what I said.

I should clarify: I'm not playing with Pianoteq for my own amusement.  I want to reach people with my music.  That's why it worries me when people claim that the sound of Pianoteq isn't "warm".  I don't agree with that statement, but I do find that the attack part of the sound is sometimes lacking in richness compared to a real or well-sampled grand.

Should we take it then that you only use Pianoteq for recordings, and you prefer a real piano for your own playing pleasure?

Equalisation is a huge factor in the perception of warmth, or lack thereof.

Dynamic range, compression and reverb make big, big differences too.

Running sounds through preamplifier emulations and virtual transformers more icing on the cake.

Plenty of the AB preset comparisons that I have heard Pianoteq has actually been one of the warmest examples, by which I mean a softer sound without pushing detail in the presence region or pushing the treble too much.

Lycomedes wrote:

It's often said that the sound of Pianoteq isn't "warm".  Have you tried using Pianoteq with saturation plugins or other FX?  What were the results?

If you have ever seen written or have heard "often said" as you referenced - how many times? Once? Twice?  Your post is entirely subjective. Your second sentence is more objective and meaningful.

Regards,

Lanny

There are numerous forum posts and YouTube comments claiming that this or that piano VST has more "warmth" than Pianoteq.  That's a fact, not my own opinion on the matter.  Might be worth considering how FX can be used to create this subjective "warmth" that is so often sought.