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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bridge Over Troubled Water]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wondered about the reverb as well, I thought (in the first version) that you were trying to emulate the &#039;wall of sound&#039; processing typical of the 60s and 70s. The second version is preferable, I think. For me the unequal temperament doesn&#039;t quite work in this idiom - I understand and respect your reasons for using it, but I&#039;d prefer to hear something closer to ET here.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I deliberately use too much reverb to emulate a &quot;Wall Like&quot; effect.<br />But I found that everybody prefers a less reverb version, so I changed it. <br />For the temperament, ET is more natural to our ear. <br />Maybe we had already listened for so many years under this temperament,<br />we have got used to it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (k c Paul Li)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 12:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Bridge Over Troubled Water]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In some places the notes remain, last, continue from the previous chord to the next chord in the bass part, especially in forte. Could it be the Pianoteq’s sympathetic resonance</p></blockquote></div><p>No, don&#039;t blame Pianoteq, it&#039;s all my fault, I haven&#039;t paid enough attention to the bass part yet.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (k c Paul Li)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 12:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>k c Paul Li wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you Stig for your comments.<br />I totally agree with you that it was too much reverb.<br />Not like those classical, I don&#039;t have much knowledge on mixing and performing this kind of music.<br />Just try to see if I can play/record this.<br />And I know that there are many guys that can play this one much better than me.</p><p>Following is a less reverb version<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk">https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Thank you k c Paul Li for the less reverb version. I think this piece benefit from being played with less reverb. More nice now. It sounds more personal, an expression of your own creative voice. Now it’s a more ”coherent” piece.<br />It sounds planned, so that it is clear and sensible and all its parts go more well with each other, easier to understand. Now I can hear the piano sound. Good work. </p><p>But, as you use to say ”Not totally satisfy yet”. To me, there is one thing more now. <br />In some places the notes remain, last, continue from the previous chord to the next chord in the bass part, especially in forte. Could it be the Pianoteq’s sympathetic resonance - is there too much of it? (the resonance of the strings, soundboard and cabinet). Just a thought. Anywai the piece sounds better now <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i>&nbsp; Thanks for your wotk. <br />These are only an amateur’s subjective opinions <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Keep going! Waiting with interest for next one.</p><p>Best wishes,</p><p>Stig</p><p>Pianoteqenthusiast, Organteqenthusiast, Harpteqenthusiast, Harpsichordteqenthusiast and experimenter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 11:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=981971#p981971</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I love this song! It&#039;s great that you play pops as well as classical - good music is good music. Yes, I wondered about the reverb as well, I thought (in the first version) that you were trying to emulate the &#039;wall of sound&#039; processing typical of the 60s and 70s. The second version is preferable, I think. For me the unequal temperament doesn&#039;t quite work in this idiom - I understand and respect your reasons for using it, but I&#039;d prefer to hear something closer to ET here.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dazric)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 09:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you Stig for your comments.<br />I totally agree with you that it was too much reverb.<br />Not like those classical, I don&#039;t have much knowledge on mixing and performing this kind of music.<br />Just try to see if I can play/record this.<br />And I know that there are many guys that can play this one much better than me.</p><p>Following is a less reverb version<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk">https://youtu.be/kofEnTxTpSk</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (k c Paul Li)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 00:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear k c Paul Li,</p><p>When I first listened to Bridge Over Troubled Water, I immediately thought it was too much reverb in the music. I had a hard time getting an idea of the piano sound. I think it could be your best so far, with less reverb, but not like this.<br />As a comparison of sounds, I listened carefully again to all these your pieces (and again to Bridge over troubled water):</p><p>Debussy: Suite Bergamasque - IV. Passepied<br />Debussy - Arabesque No.1<br />Clair de Lune - Debussy <br />3rd mov. Yellow River Piano Concerto<br />Ravel- Pavane pour une infante defunte<br />Bridge Over Troubled Water </p><p>As a conclusion, to my ears, you have succeeded best with the pieces Clair de Lune and Arabesque.</p><p>Clair de Lune ( I said at that time: seriously, this is one of the best renditions I have heard, and of course the Ptq sound play a big role. People could use this as an example for their studies. And what a great sound, love it. Pianoteq).</p><p>And Arabesque No.1 ( I said at that time: Beautiful playing. Beautiful sounds. I’m impressed. Played with feeling, I like every moment of this performance. And the tempo is perfect. In my opinion many people play this piece in some sections too fast. Now it was enjoyable)</p><br /><p>Would it be possible that you would try with less reverb and if you think it gets better, you upload that version as well ?<br />In any case, I want you to know, you’re so inspiring. I look up to you and I’m still testing this ”your system” but it takes time for me now, changing so many things….</p><p>Best wishes,</p><p>Stig</p><p>Pianoteqenthusiast, Organteqenthusiast, Harpteqenthusiast, Harpsichordteqenthusiast and experimenter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2022 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Bridge Over Troubled Water]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://youtu.be/5C1t-oM2dys">https://youtu.be/5C1t-oM2dys</a></p><p>Not totally satisfy yet.</p><p>11 Piano preset used:<br />A Petrof 275<br />NY Steinway D<br />K2 Basic<br />Steinway B<br />C Bechstein 282<br />Petrof 284 Mistral<br />Bluethner Model One<br />Grotrain Royal<br />Steingraeber 272<br />HB Steinway D<br />YC5 Pop</p><p>Just waiting for comments and criticisms.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (k c Paul Li)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2022 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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