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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq causes Sibelius to crash]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic! </p><p>It&#039;s so good when &quot;one of those things&quot; causing head-scratching, is overcome <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> Well done MM.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Qexl]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-04-23T03:35:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq causes Sibelius to crash]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply, Qexl.<br />I didn&#039;t ever try to edit fxp files with text editor. <br />But actually, I had a similar idea of solving the issue, and I succeeded.<br />I remembered what I had changed from the root settings of the instrument, so I tweaked that insteument accordingly and gave the fxp file a new but closely similar name.<br />After checking, I deleted the faulty ones.<br />So everything is working as expected, and I can go on with my work.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadMusicologist]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-04-22T19:43:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq causes Sibelius to crash]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ouch - sorry you&#039;re stuck atm. </p><p>This is usually the part where someone says do a complete uninstall, &#039;turn it off, then turn it back on again&#039; - the do a fresh re-install of the latest Pianoteq. </p><p>So many moving parts possibly - but before doing the above .. </p><p>Question: </p><p>Did you make the fxp while using Pianoteq as a plugin? </p><p>(I haven&#039;t experience an error from doing that - just it may be possible the host added some &quot;lines&quot; or text/something to the true FXP). </p><p>SO maybe the first thing I&#039;d do (knowing that extra info), is open the FXP in a text editor.. see if there&#039;s something obvious like &quot;Sibelius versioning&quot; or whatever else which isn&#039;t included in a normal FXP created in Piantoeq standalone. </p><p>Maybe use a file &#039;diff&#039; app for that task. </p><p>Hoping it&#039;s &quot;at worst&quot; something you can re-make.</p><p>Like, at &#039;next worst&#039; - open Pianoteq as plugin - and open another standalone instance.. A/B to view your desired FXP in the plugin version, and step through each control, copying the settings to the standalone Pianoteq. Then try &quot;Save as&quot; in standalone, save to desktop of somewhere and try loading that into your Sebelius session. </p><p>Hope something like the above might help. Let us know how you go.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Qexl]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-04-22T04:37:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq causes Sibelius to crash]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Heya MadMusicologist, </p><p>Wonder if copying a dll to a Sibelius folder might cause the issue.</p></blockquote></div><p>Apparently not: At Sibelius they also told me not to add any plugin dll-files to the AVID VSt-folder. So I removed them and pasted them to the VSt-folder of my DAW Cakewalk (by Bandlab), there it is required, so the DAW would find them easily. After that, I launched Sibelius and changed the playback engine options and set the new path. After relaunching Sibelius it found all the plugins - aha, that worked - however, when I tried to load the fxp-file to pianoteq, Sibelius crashed again.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>After installing Pianoteq, I&#039;ve never needed to &#039;copy a dll&#039; somewhere. Install is all. </p><p>(*you may have reasons - but it does seem the likely issue, based on the info provided).</p></blockquote></div><p>As I pointed out above.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I point to it, because I use various DAWS and hosts/OSs and over time, I&#039;ve never had to do anything beyond installing Pianoteq, to have it run actually very close to 100% error free everywhere (as standalone, or as a plugin in any DAW or host). </p><p>Instead of manually copying any &#039;dll&#039; to a special custom locale, is it alternatively possible within Sibelius settings to create a path to where all VST&#039;s install to? (like the Steinberg and/or other common directories?). </p><p>Or, whilst installing, is it possible to tell Pianoteq to install the plugin path as the custom one you want?</p></blockquote></div><p>Indeed, that&#039;s possible, and I had selected per default that VSt-folder at Cakewalk.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[For the many times I&#039;ve updated Pianoteq, I actually cannot just now remember what path information it asks for when installing - because, I have never had to jink things in custom ways.. I&#039;ve pressed &quot;yes&quot; during installs.. this is how I prefer, and with audio applications, to try to make all programs use &quot;well worn paths&quot; <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i> - honestly, this does seem to have improved in the last half dozen years to a decade. I now feel there are, at least for me (with a great many audio tools), less and less valid reasons to customize disperate folders for multiple, potentially clashing installed audio &#039;extensions&#039;.] </p><p>I get very nervous, when a plugin warns me &quot;Be sure to select the correct path&quot; on install. </p><p>Keeping things as standard as possible, rather than a jungle of custom paths (for reasons) has turned out the winning way, at least for me. </p><p>Hope that gets it, but let us know - and good luck with that music.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks so far, but I have the feeling something must be screwed up with my fxp file suddenly.<br />By the way, when I open the pianoteq standalone, and click &quot;load a fxp-file&quot;, I never get anywhere: Pianoteq always returns &quot;not an fxp-file&quot;. However, when I use Pianoteq as plugin, the same file works fine. So I am really in a bad situation since I cannot continue my project properly.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadMusicologist]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-04-21T17:16:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Heya MadMusicologist, </p><p>Wonder if copying a dll to a Sibelius folder might cause the issue. </p><br /><p>After installing Pianoteq, I&#039;ve never needed to &#039;copy a dll&#039; somewhere. Install is all. </p><p>(*you may have reasons - but it does seem the likely issue, based on the info provided). </p><br /><p>I point to it, because I use various DAWS and hosts/OSs and over time, I&#039;ve never had to do anything beyond installing Pianoteq, to have it run actually very close to 100% error free everywhere (as standalone, or as a plugin in any DAW or host). </p><p>Instead of manually copying any &#039;dll&#039; to a special custom locale, is it alternatively possible within Sibelius settings to create a path to where all VST&#039;s install to? (like the Steinberg and/or other common directories?). </p><p>Or, whilst installing, is it possible to tell Pianoteq to install the plugin path as the custom one you want? </p><p>[For the many times I&#039;ve updated Pianoteq, I actually cannot just now remember what path information it asks for when installing - because, I have never had to jink things in custom ways.. I&#039;ve pressed &quot;yes&quot; during installs.. this is how I prefer, and with audio applications, to try to make all programs use &quot;well worn paths&quot; <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i> - honestly, this does seem to have improved in the last half dozen years to a decade. I now feel there are, at least for me (with a great many audio tools), less and less valid reasons to customize disperate folders for multiple, potentially clashing installed audio &#039;extensions&#039;.] </p><p>I get very nervous, when a plugin warns me &quot;Be sure to select the correct path&quot; on install. </p><p>Keeping things as standard as possible, rather than a jungle of custom paths (for reasons) has turned out the winning way, at least for me. </p><p>Hope that gets it, but let us know - and good luck with that music.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-04-21T02:17:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Working on a concerto score using pianoteq as solo instrument (VSt-Plugin) in Sibelius 2022.3 ultimate, together with Sibelius player, Garritan/Aria Player and NotePerformer.<br />Whenever I try to load the fxp-file for the piano, Sibelius crashes.<br />Windows 10 64 bit 21H2, build 19044.1645, 16 GB RAM.<br />I just downloaded the most recent pianoteq 7 version (7.5.4) and installed it, copied the VST-dll to the Avid VSt-folder.<br />UPDATE: The same happens when I open a score that only has pianoteq as instruments, hence the issue is independent of the other instruments / plugins.<br />Any suggestions?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MadMusicologist]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-04-20T16:26:06Z</updated>
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