Modartt user forum - early jazz experimental preset

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (doug) — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:54:37 +0000

Thanks, Guillaume, for the interesting reply. I guess it makes sense that you'd do different things on different projects.

I gather that your "Flamenco Sketches" preset is based more around an individual piano during a specific session. (And thanks for putting it "out-of-tune" just like the original.)

Maybe someone could model the piano on Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" etc. and we'd have the definitive piano for rock and roll and Chicago blues.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:41:15 +0000

doug, I had in mind several early jazz music when adjusting this preset, like Art Tatum, Errol Garner or Hazel Scott. These early recording always have this warm sound which is partially due to the lack of high frequencies. But I didn't actually try to get the exact sound of a precise recording, it was more on the general sound picture all this music creates in your mind.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (doug) — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:22:36 +0000

I like this a lot. Very simple-sounding. Or it may just be the title.

What early jazz were you using for this? Your demo sounds more Oscar than Jelly Roll.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Gilles) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:28:50 +0000

This fxp is a good lesson in Spectrum Profile editing. I stayed away from this note edit possibility because I found it hard to stay within "piano sound" while modifying the spectrum. Now I see from our expert that the method seems to be to concentrate on the sound of a small number of notes that are more of interest, maybe from the music to be played, and then use interpolation to even out the result. I wonder if ears were the only instrument used, or if some data acquisition took place.

I think this fxp brings the middle register of the C3 closer to the (older) Erard sound. In fact, it reminds me a lot of a very old small Haddorff upright that a friend owns. It is in bad shape (needs tuning and dampers don't damp much, and also I find the keyboard to light for my taste) but the sound is very similar.

It must be over 60 years old and it has real ivory keys, which feel very nice under the fingers, although they are quite yellow now...

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (skip) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:53:55 +0000

I couldn't hear the MP3 either, when streaming directly from the link. However, when I downloaded it first, and then played it from my local disk, that worked fine.

Greg.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Beto-Music) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:42:39 +0000

Sound interesting, Philippe. Well done.

Now I see professional piano tuner makes the difference, for adjust new presets in version PRO.

Philippe, you should create a digital piano tunning class.

Anyone here plays the music Peter Gun ????
I feel this jazz preset would fit very well to.

Annex: Curious. When I upload the Jazz preset I got a trasposition that I did not requested. After that call another pianoteq 3.5 with standart C3, and soon came back to the jazz of early pianoteq instance, the key get back to original.
My crazy PC...

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Beto-Music) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:20:52 +0000

Strange... the other mp3 from files section run normally on my player.
But just the Jazz C3 mp3 have no sound.

There are 3 possibilities:

-This mp3 can't be decoded by my player
-The mp3 had a problem
-Or this is a preset to people who don't like jazz. ... kidding ;-)

I will try the FXp with the midi.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:11:17 +0000

I uploaded the short midi file that served for recording the demo in the files section.

Re: early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Jake Johnson) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:33:44 +0000

Thanks. The mp3 and preset make me think a singer in a black sequined dress is about to step up to her mic. Great sound.

Could you post a midi file for the passage that you recorded?

early jazz experimental preset

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:12:53 +0000

Doing some experiments with the pro version on the C3 and looking after the piano sound that can be found in some early jazz, I did an "early-jazz" preset that can be downloaded in the files section. There's a short demo also. Fxp and audio links:
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...20jazz.fxp
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...20jazz.mp3
Maybe of interest?

PS. Remember that any fxp file constructed with pianoteq pro can be used in pianoteq standard.