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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha N1X vs Kawai Novus NV-10S for Pianoteq]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also own the KAWAI NOVUS 10S, &amp; effectively use 5PIN DIN MIDI with my RME BABYFACE Pro Midi IN (In Stereo) going back into NV10s &quot;LINE IN&quot;, and it is shear perfect DigitalPano PianoTeq8 Bliss.</p><p>In addition I have owned the AVANT GRAND N3 and 23 other DP&#039;s and controllers. Consequently, when I want an even greater connection &amp; immersive experierience to the KAWAI NV10s instrument, I&#039;ll add an HS8 Sub woofer and 1 (of 2 Pairs) of I-Loud MTM monitors......</p><p>I&#039;m 71 years old, and feel 21, and still play 3 to 4 gigs a week in public with PT8 and a laptop rack. (DALLAS,TX)&nbsp; The &quot;LIVE&quot; controller is the ROLAND A88mk2.&nbsp; I&#039;m all set for MIDI2... and whenever PT releases it..... (Ha!) </p><p>Don&#039;t be a &quot;scholar with a dollar&quot; on your PT8 &quot;setup&quot; if your &quot;Income &amp; Living&quot; depend upon it. You will either pay now or greater for it in the future.&nbsp; &nbsp;If&nbsp; piano playing is your hobby &amp; your living does not depend upon it, by all means dibble-dabble and fiddle around.&nbsp; </p><p>Onward towards effectively inspiring our listeners....and audiences.....<br />KB</p><p><a href="https://vimeo.com/865720213/3a7de26be2?share=copy">https://vimeo.com/865720213/3a7de26be2?share=copy</a></p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Olivier W wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>navindra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I own an NV10 and everything you said is spot on. The ground loop isn&#039;t a problem for me as I just use the old school MIDI cables. </p><p>I wouldn&#039;t give up this action however... it&#039;s like nothing else I&#039;ve experienced.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, even a good action, should be regulated after 5 years or 10 years, or sometimes after factory.....</p><p>See here :<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/t2_SSbzArzU">https://youtu.be/t2_SSbzArzU</a></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha N1X vs Kawai Novus NV-10S for Pianoteq]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>navindra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I own an NV10 and everything you said is spot on. The ground loop isn&#039;t a problem for me as I just use the old school MIDI cables. </p><p>I wouldn&#039;t give up this action however... it&#039;s like nothing else I&#039;ve experienced.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, even a good action, should be regulated after 5 years or 10 years, or sometimes after factory.....</p><p>See here :<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/t2_SSbzArzU">https://youtu.be/t2_SSbzArzU</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-01-03T13:34:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>psterrett wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why an NX1 and not an N3X?</p></blockquote></div><p>Maybe the OP had about £ ten thousand good reasons why they didn&#039;t go for the N3X?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-12-30T07:49:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why an NX1 and not an N3X?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-12-30T07:08:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, hope Kawai will take note of it all <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-12-29T21:40:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I own an NV10 and everything you said is spot on. The ground loop isn&#039;t a problem for me as I just use the old school MIDI cables. </p><p>I wouldn&#039;t give up this action however... it&#039;s like nothing else I&#039;ve experienced.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-12-29T19:01:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Yamaha N1X vs Kawai Novus NV-10S for Pianoteq]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>I&#039;ve compared a Yamaha N1X vs Kawai Novus NV-10S with Pianoteq.</p><p>The Winner is Yamaha N1X :</p><p>-&gt; With N1X, they is a USB to host &quot; Steinberg Driver&quot;, you can play Pianoteq directly in N1X speaker with multiple output, without the need of line in.<br />(N1X as a soundcard with speaker)<br />-&gt; NV10 have no audio driver -&gt; just midi - you have to use the noisy line IN of the Piano with often groundloop problem</p><p>-&gt; With N1X you can simulate sympathetic resonance with silent key and Pianoteq. With NV10S impossible : because in NV10S you have no sensor under the key to detect the half travel of the key when the Damper begin to leave the strings.</p><br /><p>-&gt; N1X and NV10S have no Release velocity, but N1X have release Aftertouch midi (Protocole MIDI XP) <br />-&gt; Pianoteq can read in midi XP the position and speed of the release key with N1X (to simulate Damper speed effect release)</p><p>With NV10S you can&#039;t have a release variable effect with Pianoteq.</p><p>Why ?</p><p>Because N1X behave in midi like a real Piano with sensor under the keys (Key release position and damper position) and sensor with hammer (when hammer hit the strings)<br />NV10S have only optical&nbsp; Hammer sensor with wrong midi implementation for Release effect and Sympathetic resonance when you press silently the key.</p><p>So N1X is the perfect Midi XP Piano to use with Pianoteq and send the Pianoteq sound via USB (with audio drivers without audio cable)</p><p>I don&#039;t understand Kawai and their midi choice for a 10 000 Euros Piano. Even with Kawai internal sound, sympathetic resonance doesn&#039;t work with silent key (only with no silent keys...) And the fake Damper of NV10S, have no optical sensors....Even in CA99 it&#039;s work better...with release velocity and silent keys.</p><p>I&#039;m a Kawai big fan of Millenium 3 action and sound (RX2, Shigeru, GL10....) , but the optical Hybrid midi sensors doesn&#039;t behave like a real piano (Hybrid and ATX)</p><p>So i will buy an N1X. (or no if Kawai find a soluce in a future firmware to fix the optical midi mapping for real sympathetic resonance)</p><br /><p>Regards,</p><p>Olivier F.</p>]]></content>
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