Modartt user forum - Pianoteq Limiter

Re: Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (navindra) — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:01:30 +0000

I don't understand this topic. Is my understanding here correct?:

If the level meter is in the green zone, then everything is good. Nothing to see here and nothing to worry about.

If the level meter is RED, this is bad. Then you can worry about limiters and LUFSes and such.

Also, if I export the audio on Pianoteq using the "high quality settings" option, is all of this taken care of for me?

Is there something more to this or am I missing something?

Re: Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (dazric) — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:10:33 +0000

The limiter is OK as a 'safety valve' for live playing, but quite a while ago I learned that it's better to turn it off for recording and set the output fairly low (I always go to -12dB). I experimented with less aggressive settings for the limiter, but it always seems to add a certain amount of distortion whatever you do with it.
BTW, the Youlean Loudness Meter (as mentioned by Olivier) is a brilliant tool for understanding what's going on with your loudness levels - highly recommended.

Re: Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (Chopin87) — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:08:07 +0000

It's not you, it something that should probably be written in capital in the manual, together with disabling level compensation for close mics only. It would eliminate a good 75% complaints for the sound.

Re: Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (Key Fumbler) — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:21:26 +0000

sadhö wrote:

Interesting topic but I don't understand what LUFS is - could you explain a bit? thanks

Follow the rabbit hole:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LKFS

Re: Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (sadhö) — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 05:01:41 +0000

Interesting topic but I don't understand what LUFS is - could you explain a bit? thanks

Pianoteq Limiter

null@example.com (Olivier W) — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:11:48 +0000

Hi,

It's me or snake oil ? I don't like the limiter with threshold at - 12 dB and with no big headroom in most of default presets.

( I prefer to modify the default volume 0dB to - 9 dB and set the threshold at - 3 dB for most existing presets)

Sure most people doesn't like Pianoteq at FF/FFF because of this limiter...

I think i get a more natural sound in Pianoteq (And i love the sound of the Steinway B of 7.5.2) , when i just avoid the in built limiter, and set preset at - 16 LUFS :

here a Steinway B .fxp at - 16 LUFS (Integrated) with PPP to FFF in same track or live playing (measured with youlean free meter at the main output with a virtual audio cabble)

https://forum.modartt.com/file/61sj8dxv

Regards,

Olivier F.

https://youlean.co/youlean-loudness-meter/