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			<description><![CDATA[<p>it would be fantastic if one day, if Philippe Guillaume thought of making, by the same way, a physical model of a harp !</p><p>As a harp has diatonic pitches strings, and pedals for # and b,<br />The diatonics notes would be the white keys,<br />and 7 pedals would be assigned to the 7 groups of 3 middle black keys, as it,<br />from left to right of a 7 octave MIDI keyboard :</p><p>RE&nbsp; &nbsp;DO&nbsp; &nbsp;SI&nbsp; &nbsp; MI&nbsp; &nbsp;FA&nbsp; &nbsp;SOL&nbsp; &nbsp;LA<br />D&nbsp; &nbsp; C&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;B&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; E&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F&nbsp; &nbsp; G&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;H<br />... .. ... .. ... .. ... .. ... .. ... .. ...<br />so that, for example with the D note,<br />the MIDI Fa# key would set all the D to D#<br />the MIDI Sol# key would set all the D to D becarre<br />the MIDI La# key would set all the D to D bemol</p><p>this for the 3 notes D, D, B.<br />But the inverse, for the 4 other notes, so that a harp player could visualise the MIDI keyboard as the 7 pedals down of the harp, with their movements made by foots.</p><br /><p>Then, it would have the need of modelising the place of note articulation in the string :<br />in the middle, or down the string.<br />Muted sounds (with hand) would be made by Velocity between 1 and 5 and no volume, to stop the string.</p><p>Or by pressing the sustain pedal, with the notes we want to stop, still pressed on the keyboard.</p><p>For Harmonic sounds, well, how...<br />Assume that if the Do# key of the MIDI keyboard is pressed in the same time as a white note, this white note is an harmonic sound.<br />And the velocity of the Do# determines the place the harmonic is played :<br />64 = middle of the string<br />127 = 1/4 top of string<br />0 = down the string</p><p>&nbsp; Note if far of the middle of the string, the real sound is a &quot;missing&quot; sound, that would be insterresting to modelise !</p><p>&nbsp; it would be so interesting to modelise what happens when to low pitch stings enters each other in toutch : &quot;frisements&quot; in french.</p><p>&nbsp; it would be so interesting to modelise what happens when a pitch pedal changing (b - Becarre - #) by playing the string : a special square pitch bend effect, but not only : the mechanic Herard system &quot;plays&quot; the string at it end by the changing.<br />&nbsp; So Pedal velocity could be modelised, so that even if no MIDI keyboard pressed, we could hear the Herard pedal mechanics &quot;playing&quot; the notes by changing their tonalities.</p><p>&nbsp; so if &quot;pedal keys&quot; &quot;played&quot; gently, near nothing happens. But if &quot;played&quot; strongly, we can hear the sound what harpists wants to hide by playing harp. But more realistic modelising !</p><p>&nbsp; The first bass octave string ( -&gt; SOL / G ) are metallic, and the other are made in &quot;boyeau de mouton&quot; or nylon (less good sound)</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>&nbsp; There are only 3 types of harp sounds on VSTi :<br />.in the tiny General Midi banks (basics samples )<br />.one in Garritan Orchestra (some basic samples a little better, but less usable as The Grand for the piano...)<br />.one in Reality preset banks (good musical samples, with bass strings, but Reality is today unusable because left by programmers)</p><p>.i don&#039;t count the joke &quot;Harptime&quot; but it was a good joke, to modelise a tiny FM quality harp sound.</p><p>&nbsp; So the harp is often used in a huge amount of musics and even contemporany music.<br />So, after Pianoteq, if Harpteq would be there, i buy it.</p>]]></description>
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