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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977204#p977204</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Can&#039;t help with the technicalities, but just to say I also am faithful to my old Sennheiser HD540s. They have served me very well and whilst I don&#039;t use them with Pianoteq for normal listening, I use them for editing.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977191#p977191</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Du haut de gamme ! Mais dans ce cas, je ne vois comme solution qu&#039;une interface USB avec DSP comme La Tascam 208i ou la Motu Ultralite-MK5. Avec plein d&#039;entrées et de sorties qui ne vous serviront à rien, malheureusement...</p><p>Top of the line! But in this case, I can only think of a USB interface with DSP like the Tascam 208i or the Motu Ultralite-MK5. With a lot of inputs and outputs that won&#039;t be of any help, unfortunately...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977190#p977190</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Any external equalizer will add latency, nothing to do about it, but you&#039;re talking about 2 instances of EQ3, there are 3 AFAIK ? And from what you described, you only need one, don&#039;t you ?<br />Edit: some sound cards are equipped with DSP&#039;s, which allows latency-free EQ, what are you using ?</p><p>Tout égaliseur externe ajoutera de la latence, rien à faire, mais vous parlez de 2 instances d&#039;EQ3, il y en a 3 sauf erreur ? Et d&#039;après ce que vous avez décrit, vous n&#039;en avez besoin que d&#039;une seule, non ?<br />Edit: certaines cartes-son sont équipées de DSP&#039;s, ce qui permet des EQ sans latence, en utilisez-vous une, si oui, laquelle ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Vous avez raison il y a bien 3 instances possibles d&#039;Eq3 dans les effets mais beaucoup de presets d&#039;instrument utilisent les 3 instances ( souvent 1 delay et 2 EQ3 ) donc pour ces instruments je dois sacrifier un EQ3 pour le remplacer par mon EQ3 personnalisé. J&#039;utilise 2 DAC ampli casque FX-audio x6 ou Yulong Canary II. Merci de votre aide.</p><p>You&#039;re right there are 3 possible instances of Eq3 but a lot of instrument presets use all 3 instances (often 1 delay and 2 EQ3) so for these instruments I have to sacrifice an EQ3 to replace it with my custom EQ3.&nbsp; I use 2 headphones amplifier DAC, a FX-audio x6 and a Yulong Canary II.&nbsp; Thank you for your help.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (YvesTh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977189#p977189</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Any external equalizer will add latency, nothing to do about it, but you&#039;re talking about 2 instances of EQ3, there are 3 AFAIK ? And from what you described, you only need one, don&#039;t you ?<br />Edit: some sound cards are equipped with DSP&#039;s, which allows latency-free EQ, what are you using ?</p><p>Tout égaliseur externe ajoutera de la latence, rien à faire, mais vous parlez de 2 instances d&#039;EQ3, il y en a 3 sauf erreur ? Et d&#039;après ce que vous avez décrit, vous n&#039;en avez besoin que d&#039;une seule, non ?<br />Edit: certaines cartes-son sont équipées de DSP&#039;s, ce qui permet des EQ sans latence, en utilisez-vous une, si oui, laquelle ?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 13:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977187#p977187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your help, you have perfectly resumed my problem. The solution could be yet to use pianoteq as a vst in a daw (I&#039;ve got studio one) an use an equalizer in it, but I love using pianoteq on standalone version, always ready to play... i&#039;m going to test again APO equalizer and control the latence....</p><p>...After somme tests I confirm a too big latence with APO equalizer, and it works only with wasapi (won&#039;t work with asio and wasapi exclusive). The addition of another output equalizer (independant of presets) would be a good thing.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (YvesTh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977186#p977186</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>what equalizer (equalizer or EQ3) in pianoteq is the more interesting to use</p></blockquote></div><p>I am under the impression that neither of these work quite the way you want (as a simple fixed or parametric band equalizer).</p><p>The &quot;Equalizer&quot; button on the main UI opens a dialog and if you hover over the &quot;?&quot; symbol you will see that it explains that the equalizer is not a traditional one, but affects the instrument model directly and adds compensation as well to keep loudness the same.</p><p>The &quot;Equ3&quot; panel in &quot;Effects&quot; is described in the manual as : &quot;The EQ3 effect is a simple 3-band parametric equaliser. Dragging control points on the interface will change the cutoff-frequency and the gain of each band. Pressing the ’shift’ key while dragging will change the Q factor of each band.&quot;</p><p>So Equ3 is probably close to what you want, but I think not quite what you want as a 3-band parametric seems too limited for your needs.&nbsp; You can combine multiple Equ3 effects but this seems quite complex to get to do what you want.&nbsp; You might be able to smooth out the offending HD 599 &quot;bass bump&quot; using it.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>the APO software works good for this but it seems to add a latency to pianoteq</p></blockquote></div><p>This might be worth exploring more on this site and perhaps on the Equalizer APO site to see if a solution to the latency issue can be found.&nbsp; Maybe you could explain the system setup you use (CPU, what sound API you use and if you use a sound card like a Focusrite or similar) and perhaps people can offer some suggestions.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sjgcit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977184#p977184</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sjgcit wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not sure how much programming you are will to try but here&#039;s a nice site with quite a lot of data, including equalization data for both your headphones.&nbsp; The curves they give target the Harman curve but they can probably be adapted either by hand or using &quot;some&quot; programming to create your own curve to target the HD 540 rather than a Harman curve.</p><p>The site also has quite a bit of information about equalization apps and tools for different OSes (including phones/tablets).</p><p>Here&#039;s the site : <a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq">AutoEq on GitHub</a></p><p>And links directly to the two head phones that interest you :</p><p><a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/oratory1990/harman_over-ear_2018/Sennheiser%20HD%20540%20reference-II">HD 540</a></p><p><a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/oratory1990/harman_over-ear_2018/Sennheiser%20HD%20599">HD 599</a></p><p>Hope that helps a bit.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for your help. I know the link and I tried harman curves for my headphones ( with APO equalizer and peace) but I&#039;m not satisfied with the results. The HD540 without any equalization is the best result for me, so it is the target I want to obtain for my HD599, the APO software works good for this but it seems to add a latence to pianoteq. So my question was what equalizer (equalizer or EQ3) in pianoteq is the more interesting to use.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (YvesTh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 07:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Equalisation pour casque- Equalisation for headphones]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977179#p977179</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how much programming you are will to try but here&#039;s a nice site with quite a lot of data, including equalization data for both your headphones.&nbsp; The curves they give target the Harman curve but they can probably be adapted either by hand or using &quot;some&quot; programming to create your own curve to target the HD 540 rather than a Harman curve.</p><p>The site also has quite a bit of information about equalization apps and tools for different OSes (including phones/tablets).</p><p>Here&#039;s the site : <a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq">AutoEq on GitHub</a></p><p>And links directly to the two head phones that interest you :</p><p><a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/oratory1990/harman_over-ear_2018/Sennheiser%20HD%20540%20reference-II">HD 540</a></p><p><a href="https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/oratory1990/harman_over-ear_2018/Sennheiser%20HD%20599">HD 599</a></p><p>Hope that helps a bit.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sjgcit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977178#p977178</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Je joue principalement avec un casque ancien ( sennheiser H540 ) qui me donne pleinement satisfaction ( grande linéarité et grande scène sonore ). Cependant de peur qu&#039;il ne me lâche un jour à cause de son grand âge j&#039;ai profité d&#039;une promotion pour acheter un HD599S. Ce casque a par rapport au HD540 une bosse importante entre 100 et 150hz ce qui rend les graves confus dans la zone C1-C2.<br />Pour me rapprocher au plus près du son de mon HD540 j&#039;ai trois solutions :<br />L&#039;equalizer global ( equalisation avant traitement du son )<br />Un equalizer EQ3 dans les effets ( equalisation en sortie, mais certains presets utilisent déjà les 2 EQ3 disponibles)<br />Un equalizer externe type APO equalizer ( mais il me semble que cette méthode ajoute une latence supplémentaire) <br />Quelqu&#039;un a-t&#039;il déjà étudié ce problème ou quelqu&#039;un de modartt peut-il me conseiller ?<br />Quel est la meilleure méthode pour obtenir le meilleur résultat possible ? <br />Merci</p><p>I mainly play with old headphones (Sennheiser H540) which gives me full satisfaction (great linearity and great soundstage).&nbsp; However lest he let me go one day because of his old age, I took advantage of a promotion to buy an HD599S.&nbsp; These headphones have a significant bump between 100 and 150hz compared to the HD540, which makes the bass confused in the C1-C2 zone.<br /> To get as close as possible to the sound of my HD540 I have three solutions:<br /> The global equalizer (equalization before sound processing)<br /> An EQ3 equalizer in the effects (output equalization, but some presets already use the 2 EQ3 available)<br /> An external equalizer type APO equalizer (but it seems to me that this method adds an additional latency)<br /> Has anyone studied this problem before or can someone from modartt advise me?<br /> What&#039;s the best way to get the best possible result?<br /> Thank you</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (YvesTh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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