Modartt user forum - 88-key easy to carry

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Key Fumbler) — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:16:07 +0000

There was at least one (very, very) high-end keyboard that folded in the way that this cheap synth weight keyboard does. It was from a manufacturer called Vax - that keyboard had full polyphonic aftertouch!
https://youtu.be/m6jgMuZyrmk
Vax attempted to bring a much cheaper DIY solution to the market. Not cheap though - and I think it lost the folding feature too.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (dulistan heman) — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 02:55:46 +0000

Those are interesting piano to buy for practice.
Casio also make the lightest 88 keyboard weighted graded with triple sensors that supposed to works better with Pianoteq. I'd love to see anyone posting the video for demonstration.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Luc Henrion) — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:42:06 +0000

... and the fact that you can't get a 88 keys "result": it's 73 or 97 !!! Or 49, but...

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (dazric) — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 11:15:58 +0000

I came across a portable modular keyboard that looks as if it's decent quality. Was quite interested until I saw the price! https://pianodevoyage.com/

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (dazric) — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:42:32 +0000

Gaston wrote:

Another transportable 88 keys-keyboard, but even smaller !
A modular keyboard in 10 small pieces :
https://www.hsyho.store/products/factor...-piano-one
(At first glance the price could suggest a decimal point error ... )

Hmm, an interesting concept, but the key depth looks very shallow. Is it even velocity-sensitive? It doesn't say so!

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Luc Henrion) — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:11:57 +0000

Autant acheter un jouet, non ?
Rather toyish...

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Gaston) — Sun, 25 Jul 2021 16:30:07 +0000

Another transportable 88 keys-keyboard, but even smaller !

A modular keyboard in 10 small pieces :

https://www.hsyho.store/products/factor...-piano-one

(At first glance the price could suggest a decimal point error ... )

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Luc Henrion) — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 17:00:00 +0000

Yes, the Casio PX350 is more "piano like", but the Yamaha has its charm too. But both weigh three times more than the folding keyboard presented here... and they are of course twice as long. Too bad.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (EvilDragon) — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:04:58 +0000

Casio PX-5S or the like.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Chopin87) — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:51:09 +0000

Casio is probably the best compromise between the two. The other one is to catch a victim (usually big mouthed guitarists) and splith the moving weight.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Luc Henrion) — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:43:40 +0000

VERY interesting link... So, to sum up, it is almost impossible to get a weighted action without... weight! Too bad. But nevertheless, I own two kb with "graded" action (Casio PX350 and Yamaha MX88) which I like, even if the feel is, of course, far from my real 6' grand. I hope there will be more progress in this area.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Gaston) — Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:28:59 +0000

alphabetter wrote:

Luc Henrion wrote:
Why not... isn't it just a matter of adjusting the springs under the keys ?
No, the effect is different. As a weight starts moving the feeling of weight decreases as it gains momentum (assuming you don't keep accelerating it). With a spring the more you compress it the stiffer it gets so the feeling of weight increases.
Weighted keyboards also have a simulation of the effect of the hammer releasing on real pianos. I've never looked at how weighted keyboards do that, but I assume if there was a good way to do it without weights someone would already have done it.

Regarding action, there are basically three types of keyboards:
Synth action, Weighted action, Hammer (or Graded hammer) action :

https://www.keytarhq.com/piano-action.html

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (alphabetter) — Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:08:15 +0000

Luc Henrion wrote:

Why not... isn't it just a matter of adjusting the springs under the keys ?

No, the effect is different. As a weight starts moving the feeling of weight decreases as it gains momentum (assuming you don't keep accelerating it). With a spring the more you compress it the stiffer it gets so the feeling of weight increases.

Weighted keyboards also have a simulation of the effect of the hammer releasing on real pianos. I've never looked at how weighted keyboards do that, but I assume if there was a good way to do it without weights someone would already have done it.

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Luc Henrion) — Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:53:35 +0000

This is a solution for composing, not for practicing... at least "serious" stuff from the repertoire: you really need 88 notes and a "weighted" kb. But a weighted kb without the weight ? Why not... isn't it just a matter of adjusting the springs under the keys ?

Re: 88-key easy to carry

null@example.com (Groove On) — Fri, 16 Jul 2021 05:37:35 +0000

Gaston wrote:

The solution for a nomadic Pianoteq setup ?

Here's my most recent "nomadic" Pianoteq setup - the Casio CT-S1 keyboard + MacBook Air. I'm pretty happy with the portability. It's still a US$199 keyboard action, but the dynamics are decent for travel / home playing. Pianoteq in stereo thru the Casio's "surround sound" effect/speakers, sounds better than you'd expect.

Not as good as a weighted keyboard with large speakers, but a nice small step-up from the Roland Go Piano or Yamaha NP-32.