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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Romariozen wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hum?<br />I presume you actually meant bass?</p><p>Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system. <br />Consider your loudspeaker positioning too. </p><p>If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content. </p><p>Compare the sound on some decent headphones. </p><p>If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.</p></blockquote></div><p>Humming I mean the resonances of piano&#039;s body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.</p><p>Mono ing&nbsp; is a good way but I don&#039;t like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama</p></blockquote></div><p>Your premise begs other questions.<br />Which of the pianos are you finding too resonant, too boxy?;&nbsp; I could understand if you were trying to use the lovely characterful Pleyel or the Errard for instance for a crisp modern pop sound instead of say the YC5 or the K. </p><p>Do you find this going through every preset? </p><p>Which version of Pianoteq are you using? </p><p>What&#039;s the frame of reference? <br />Classical, Pop/Rock, real piano - what type, in what size of room?</p><p>Perhaps you want to use Cardioid microphones instead of the omnidirectional types, the latter of which captures more ambient sound.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw</a> <br /><a href="https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirectional-vs-cardioid-mic-which-is-best-for-studio/#Omnidirectional_vs_Cardioid_Polar_Pattern">https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirect...ar_Pattern</a></p></blockquote></div><p>The video is what I wanted, thanks</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Romariozen wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Romariozen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.</p><p>Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix<br />PS I don&#039;t want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>I don&#039;t know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit</p></blockquote></div><p>Hum?<br />I presume you actually meant bass?</p><p>Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system. <br />Consider your loudspeaker positioning too. </p><p>If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content. </p><p>Compare the sound on some decent headphones. </p><p>If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.</p></blockquote></div><p>Humming I mean the resonances of piano&#039;s body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.</p><p>Mono ing&nbsp; is a good way but I don&#039;t like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama</p></blockquote></div><p>Your premise begs other questions.<br />Which of the pianos are you finding too resonant, too boxy?;&nbsp; I could understand if you were trying to use the lovely characterful Pleyel or the Errard for instance for a crisp modern pop sound instead of say the YC5 or the K. </p><p>Do you find this going through every preset? </p><p>Which version of Pianoteq are you using? </p><p>What&#039;s the frame of reference? <br />Classical, Pop/Rock, real piano - what type, in what size of room?</p><p>Perhaps you want to use Cardioid microphones instead of the omnidirectional types, the latter of which captures more ambient sound.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw</a> <br /><a href="https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirectional-vs-cardioid-mic-which-is-best-for-studio/#Omnidirectional_vs_Cardioid_Polar_Pattern">https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirect...ar_Pattern</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-03T09:27:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>DPA 4041 is a very expensive microphone: <a href="https://www.dpamicrophones.com/pencil/4041-large-diaphragm-microphone">https://www.dpamicrophones.com/pencil/4...microphone</a></p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Romariozen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.</p><p>Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix<br />PS I don&#039;t want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>I don&#039;t know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit</p></blockquote></div><p>Hum?<br />I presume you actually meant bass?</p><p>Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system. <br />Consider your loudspeaker positioning too. </p><p>If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content. </p><p>Compare the sound on some decent headphones. </p><p>If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.</p></blockquote></div><p>Humming I mean the resonances of piano&#039;s body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.</p><p>Mono ing&nbsp; is a good way but I don&#039;t like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Romariozen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.</p><p>Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix<br />PS I don&#039;t want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>I don&#039;t know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit</p></blockquote></div><p>Hum?<br />I presume you actually meant bass?</p><p>Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system. <br />Consider your loudspeaker positioning too. </p><p>If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content. </p><p>Compare the sound on some decent headphones. </p><p>If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.</p><p>Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix<br />PS I don&#039;t want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>I don&#039;t know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit</p>]]></content>
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