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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Who would say the sound it&#039;s coming from a digita lmodelled piano?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9mA-38_OU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9mA-38_OU</a></p></blockquote></div><p>That is such a magnificent sound! Thanks for sharing <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Who would say the sound it&#039;s coming from a digita lmodelled piano?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9mA-38_OU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9mA-38_OU</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2021 05:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Loving how real the attack sounds with the warm preset in the upper octaves (all octaves really, but especially the mid-uppers). Really a step forward! There are some unpleasant ringing frequencies I&#039;ve noticed in the 5th octave, but maybe I can tweak those out (only have std, not pro). Still, just a fantastic sound.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 05:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Modartt for another impressive instrument. Comparing it so far with the NY Steinway D - my choice for Romantic repertoire - the Mistral has a much more open sound, with more instrument resonance, as opposed to added room resonance. Consequently the Mistral sounds as if it is coming from a larger space, whilst at times, in quieter, simple, passages, you can feel/hear the resonance coming from the soundboard as you would with an acoustic.&nbsp; (That shimmering halo around the notes)&nbsp; In contrast, weirdly, the NY D sounds as if it&#039;s coming from a smaller space.&nbsp; An almost intimate sound.&nbsp; Which is weird! (Returning to the D for a period its power was evident again and the sense of intimacy faded)&nbsp; For the first time, having with my setup difficulties with earlier instruments in the C4 - C5 register, I adjusted the velocity curve for the Mistral to give it a little more bite rather than reduce it.&nbsp; Previously I have always had to tame that register somewhat. As I have experienced before with new or updated instruments, there is a real sense of a different action/tone/attack/dynamics you get from moving from one acoustic to another. Which is also weird, but is a tribute to the realism of the sound. I usually set the dB level at 60 for other instruments.&nbsp; For the Mistral I reduced it to 55 and may go lower. it seems much more sensitive to changes in weight of touch and, rendering a few midis, pianissimo became almost inaudible against the &quot;normal&quot; f and ff. So it was even more a sense of having a different action than usual.</p><p>My preference lately has been NY D for Romantic music, Bluethner for Haydn/Mozart etc. Counter intuitive, but the sound of the Bluethner is so beautiful and the NY D had to fight to retain its spot for later music.&nbsp; The Mistral has yet to convince me to supplant either - it lies between them in many respects and I need to do more work on the treble register. Dare I say that with my system the openness in the upper register comes a bit too close to hollowness? Not actual hollowness but some slight hint of it. I suspect with a little work the Mistral will prove itself to be the impressive instrument it is, but the competition is between several wonderful instruments each excelling in different ways.</p><p>That it was free having already got the Ant. Petrof is the ultimate bargain.</p><p>Many, many thanks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=975242#p975242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely adore this instrument - it&#039;s so pure and you can really hear into the sound.</p><p>I&#039;ve always preferred a round, but not necessarily mellow, tone. In terms of acoustic instruments, I tend to gravitate towards Bechstein, and in some cases Bosendorfer - both brands create instruments with a tone that really appeals to me. I&#039;ve only ever played one Petrof - a small upright which was very enjoyable as well. My goto Pianoteq instrument has been the Bechstein since it came out, but I think this Petrof will become my &#039;daily&#039; virtual piano.</p><p>The two instruments that have been designed specifically for version 7 of Pianoteq (NY Steinway &amp; Petrof 284 Mistral) seem to have a much more refined quality to the sound. I can&#039;t put my finger on it, but there&#039;s definitely something different in the quality of the sound compared to the instruments that were released during V6 or before. Has anyone else noticed this?</p><p>Anyway, the future of modelled pianos seems very very bright indeed!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The maximum sustain (decay) of the Petrof Mistral 284 is 90 seconds.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Professor Leandro Duarte)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Double polarization was available since v7 introduction.<br />But now in 7.3 many people found not just Petrof Mistral great, but the other models somehow improved.</p><p><span class="bbu">The changes in 7.3 was :</span></p><p>-Introducing Petrof 284 Mistral concert grand piano.<br /><strong>-Improved repetition model benefiting all acoustic pianos.</strong><br />-Piano lid removal now possible (double click on lid).<br />-Steinway B update: bass range and upper range revoicing.</p><p>So, improved repetition can make a difference for all piano models.</p><p>What about you make a test, trying performances where repetition is often?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Key Fumbler wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lowendtheory wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I usually don&#039;t buy instrument packs, but this is an exception. The sound and realism of the 284 impressed me so much I had to buy it!<br />To me, it just sounds so much <em>more</em> like a real piano than all the other models, even the New York Steinway!</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting.<br />I went back through the other acoustic pianos and heard those improvements across the board. The Petrof models are both strong performers.</p><p>I cannot say I have a favourite anymore. It&#039;s more like having different colours in a palette.<br />Back when I first got version five I did have a firm favourite of the Bluthner.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 13:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lowendtheory wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I usually don&#039;t buy instrument packs, but this is an exception. The sound and realism of the 284 impressed me so much I had to buy it!<br />To me, it just sounds so much <em>more</em> like a real piano than all the other models, even the New York Steinway!</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting.<br />I went back through the other acoustic pianos and heard those improvements across the board. The Petrof models are both strong performers.</p><p>I cannot say I have a favourite anymore. It&#039;s more like having different colours in a palette.<br />Back when I first got version five I did have a firm favourite of the Bluthner.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I usually don&#039;t buy instrument packs, but this is an exception. The sound and realism of the 284 impressed me so much I had to buy it!<br />To me, it just sounds so much <em>more</em> like a real piano than all the other models, even the New York Steinway!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 04:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This model, probable a intermediary between Ant Petrof and Petrof Mitral 284, also sounds very nice:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOoZiFH1Ek">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOoZiFH1Ek</a></p><p>9 foot 2 inches (282cm)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Beto-Music)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 20:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The Petrof 284 Mistral is now my favorite piano. Resonant and crisp at the same time; rich with body and warmth, but distinct and clear.</p><p>Thank you so much, Modartt team, for creating this new model!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If our dpiano keyboards are not &#039;perfect&#039; with the default velocity curve, it&#039;s musician task 101 to adjust things like raising or lowering velocity curve where it sounds &#039;not right.&#039; (like getting a piano technician to work on the hammer felts as a minimum.). I&#039;m just amazed at my age to have a software piano which is so pliable as that and beyond into soundscaping territory as well (like an infinitely malleable synth). .</p></blockquote></div><p>Absolutely, and Pianoteq allows us to go where no sampled piano has gone before!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#039;s very nice, <br />Thank you Modartt for this gift.</p><p>It has a lovely and clear sound but without harshness.<br />I usually need to use the 3 band EQs to soften some frequencies in the mid/high range, but not with this one. Good work.<br />On the other side, the bass notes are crisp and precise with a woody tone, and a little less metallic rings, I like that.<br />Also, the level of the the pedal and keys noises seems now just fine. Not a big problem either.</p><p>This new Petrof will do a super all-rounder,</p><p>Thanks</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Agreeing with Key Fumbler (very generous of Modartt to give 2 flagship type pianos for 1 pack) and groovy (Muffled = velocity curve, great start point) <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> </p><p>Yes, definitely the Mistral is the primary flagship (nearly bought one some 9yrs ago - but for space when moving). </p><p>I&#039;m thinking the Ant. embodied everything loved in the top ranges of the piano over a century plus, by the namesake originating family member 150 years ago (Antonin Petrof). </p><p>The Ant. Petrof seems to me almost as &#039;big&#039; in various ways yet being slightly smaller (yet still on the largest scale compared to most grands), suited to &#039;more&#039; concert halls which may not best accommodate a larger piano. It forcefully fills a space with great tonal range, whereas the Mistral does that, plus also exhibiting a wider range of expression (from close recording to filling the largest halls). </p><p>The Ant. kind of sums up &#039;all&#039; the Petrof sound in a nutshell - and the Mistral is the current and future flagship, which does that, and more.. but that&#039;s just myself leaning into what I&#039;ve gleaned over time and what I&#039;ve ingested from media releases and showroom people. </p><p>Even Modartt personnel may not be given exact information about the Petrof internal differentiation.. because, just like any great art, it is often about &quot;what is loved&quot;, &quot;why&quot; and &quot;how can we improve from this point&quot; and like most piano manufacturers, different pianos at different sizes have some obvious use cases - but the Ant. and the Mistral are sharing that same top end territory IMO. </p><p>If our dpiano keyboards are not &#039;perfect&#039; with the default velocity curve, it&#039;s musician task 101 to adjust things like raising or lowering velocity curve where it sounds &#039;not right.&#039; (like getting a piano technician to work on the hammer felts as a minimum.). I&#039;m just amazed at my age to have a software piano which is so pliable as that and beyond into soundscaping territory as well (like an infinitely malleable snyth). </p><p>All the rest (the FX and other 40 controls) is arbitrarily to move exact things towards more defined tastes or recording requirements etc.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 10:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>m.tarenskeen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am trying the [Petrov 284 Mistral] preset and and am noticing that the g&#039; key is sounding strange, muffled.</p><p>Does not sound right to me.&nbsp; Anyone else has noticed that?</p></blockquote></div><p>You mean MIDI G3 right? Personally I don&#039;t hear something strange there.<br />Muffled normally means suboptimal velocity curve in my experience.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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