Who would say the sound it's coming from a digita lmodelled piano?
That is such a magnificent sound! Thanks for sharing
]]>My preference lately has been NY D for Romantic music, Bluethner for Haydn/Mozart etc. Counter intuitive, but the sound of the Bluethner is so beautiful and the NY D had to fight to retain its spot for later music. The Mistral has yet to convince me to supplant either - it lies between them in many respects and I need to do more work on the treble register. Dare I say that with my system the openness in the upper register comes a bit too close to hollowness? Not actual hollowness but some slight hint of it. I suspect with a little work the Mistral will prove itself to be the impressive instrument it is, but the competition is between several wonderful instruments each excelling in different ways.
That it was free having already got the Ant. Petrof is the ultimate bargain.
Many, many thanks.
]]>I've always preferred a round, but not necessarily mellow, tone. In terms of acoustic instruments, I tend to gravitate towards Bechstein, and in some cases Bosendorfer - both brands create instruments with a tone that really appeals to me. I've only ever played one Petrof - a small upright which was very enjoyable as well. My goto Pianoteq instrument has been the Bechstein since it came out, but I think this Petrof will become my 'daily' virtual piano.
The two instruments that have been designed specifically for version 7 of Pianoteq (NY Steinway & Petrof 284 Mistral) seem to have a much more refined quality to the sound. I can't put my finger on it, but there's definitely something different in the quality of the sound compared to the instruments that were released during V6 or before. Has anyone else noticed this?
Anyway, the future of modelled pianos seems very very bright indeed!
]]>The changes in 7.3 was :
-Introducing Petrof 284 Mistral concert grand piano.
-Improved repetition model benefiting all acoustic pianos.
-Piano lid removal now possible (double click on lid).
-Steinway B update: bass range and upper range revoicing.
So, improved repetition can make a difference for all piano models.
What about you make a test, trying performances where repetition is often?
lowendtheory wrote:I usually don't buy instrument packs, but this is an exception. The sound and realism of the 284 impressed me so much I had to buy it!
To me, it just sounds so much more like a real piano than all the other models, even the New York Steinway!Interesting.
I went back through the other acoustic pianos and heard those improvements across the board. The Petrof models are both strong performers.I cannot say I have a favourite anymore. It's more like having different colours in a palette.
Back when I first got version five I did have a firm favourite of the Bluthner.
I usually don't buy instrument packs, but this is an exception. The sound and realism of the 284 impressed me so much I had to buy it!
To me, it just sounds so much more like a real piano than all the other models, even the New York Steinway!
Interesting.
I went back through the other acoustic pianos and heard those improvements across the board. The Petrof models are both strong performers.
I cannot say I have a favourite anymore. It's more like having different colours in a palette.
Back when I first got version five I did have a firm favourite of the Bluthner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOoZiFH1Ek
9 foot 2 inches (282cm)
]]>Thank you so much, Modartt team, for creating this new model!
]]>If our dpiano keyboards are not 'perfect' with the default velocity curve, it's musician task 101 to adjust things like raising or lowering velocity curve where it sounds 'not right.' (like getting a piano technician to work on the hammer felts as a minimum.). I'm just amazed at my age to have a software piano which is so pliable as that and beyond into soundscaping territory as well (like an infinitely malleable synth). .
Absolutely, and Pianoteq allows us to go where no sampled piano has gone before!
]]>It has a lovely and clear sound but without harshness.
I usually need to use the 3 band EQs to soften some frequencies in the mid/high range, but not with this one. Good work.
On the other side, the bass notes are crisp and precise with a woody tone, and a little less metallic rings, I like that.
Also, the level of the the pedal and keys noises seems now just fine. Not a big problem either.
This new Petrof will do a super all-rounder,
Thanks
]]>Yes, definitely the Mistral is the primary flagship (nearly bought one some 9yrs ago - but for space when moving).
I'm thinking the Ant. embodied everything loved in the top ranges of the piano over a century plus, by the namesake originating family member 150 years ago (Antonin Petrof).
The Ant. Petrof seems to me almost as 'big' in various ways yet being slightly smaller (yet still on the largest scale compared to most grands), suited to 'more' concert halls which may not best accommodate a larger piano. It forcefully fills a space with great tonal range, whereas the Mistral does that, plus also exhibiting a wider range of expression (from close recording to filling the largest halls).
The Ant. kind of sums up 'all' the Petrof sound in a nutshell - and the Mistral is the current and future flagship, which does that, and more.. but that's just myself leaning into what I've gleaned over time and what I've ingested from media releases and showroom people.
Even Modartt personnel may not be given exact information about the Petrof internal differentiation.. because, just like any great art, it is often about "what is loved", "why" and "how can we improve from this point" and like most piano manufacturers, different pianos at different sizes have some obvious use cases - but the Ant. and the Mistral are sharing that same top end territory IMO.
If our dpiano keyboards are not 'perfect' with the default velocity curve, it's musician task 101 to adjust things like raising or lowering velocity curve where it sounds 'not right.' (like getting a piano technician to work on the hammer felts as a minimum.). I'm just amazed at my age to have a software piano which is so pliable as that and beyond into soundscaping territory as well (like an infinitely malleable snyth).
All the rest (the FX and other 40 controls) is arbitrarily to move exact things towards more defined tastes or recording requirements etc.
]]>I am trying the [Petrov 284 Mistral] preset and and am noticing that the g' key is sounding strange, muffled.
Does not sound right to me. Anyone else has noticed that?
You mean MIDI G3 right? Personally I don't hear something strange there.
Muffled normally means suboptimal velocity curve in my experience.