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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973861#p973861</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t know about better - but I like a simple hard middle split.</p><p>I copy and paste these 2 in.. one is the left piano, the other right.</p><p>In the Layers panel, editing layer 1 for example, select &#039;note edit&#039; then &#039;volume&#039; - then right-click and paste this into the pane:</p><br /><p>Volume = [-23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -4, +1, 0, 0, -1, -1, 0, -1, +1, +1, +2, 0, +1, +2, +2, 0, -2, -1, +2, -2, -2, +2, +2, +1, 0, -3, +1, +2, +1, 0, +1, +1, 0, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, +1, -1, -2, 0, 0, +1, 0, 0, +2, +1]</p><br /><p>and repeat the process for layer 2 but with this to paste in..</p><br /><p>Volume = [0, -1, -2, +1, 0, +1, +1, 0, -1, 0, +1, 0, +1, +2, +1, +1, 0, 0, 0, +1, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1, -1, +1, +2, 0, -1, -1, -2, -1, -3, +1, 0, +4, +1, +1, +2, +1, -2, 0, 0, +2, +1, +2, +2, +3, 0, -4, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23, -23]</p><br /><p>I like the way this hard split melds - plenty of times, trying to get a fine gradated sloping mix (hand drawn or from some mathematical basis) can get me into more work than I want - but it&#039;s nice that, for me, this really simple split still seems to have given me my best results so far. Hope that helps and maybe saves a lot of time for people trying this out. Cheers!</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Silencer, like the silencers to avoid the hammer to hit the strings</p></blockquote></div><p>Nice! We can reduce things like sympathetic resonance in the note editor - but a kind of nicely designed meta control that zero&#039;s out a bunch of those types of things to result in no resonant audio (beyond like you say just volume) - could be good for details or other designs! Cool idea. </p><p>@Antonio M - not sure what glitch you had trying to upload the FXP but give another try - I sometimes pick the wrong box (audio instead of FXP) - a bunch of things have tripped me up when I didn&#039;t keep an eye on the &quot;upload successful&quot; messages.. or could just have been a small web server glitch without an error msg too - but yeah, give another go following the prompts and hopefully it&#039;ll work out next time.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973851#p973851</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>@Antonio: are you able to post your fxp? In which octave did you make the transition?</p></blockquote></div><p>well, I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m doing but that didn&#039;t prevented me from trying.<br />I tried to upload to the FXP corner but <strong>nothing happened</strong>... what goes?... I can&#039;t find it.</p><p>transition is from C2 to B2, I cannot notice when it starts on the left but C3 does sound different when playing note by note... <br />transition dB from -3 to -13 and -11 to -3 (hand drawn) <br />and the &quot;silent&quot; notes to -96 dB (that&#039;s as low as I could get them).</p><p>Also I started from a heavily edit NY and HB versions as my keyboard black keys have lower volume than the white ones.<br />does the FXP include the velocity curve? also heavily edited to start with low slope and increase rapidly from 50 to 127.</p><p>So - if you can find it - just take it as an example and build your own - hopefully someone more familiar with all this can post a better version if there is interest.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Antonio M)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 19:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973844#p973844</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Antonio: are you able to post your fxp? In which octave did you make the transition?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973843#p973843</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if instead of a Volume Split, in Note Edition tool, we could have a Silencer, like the silencers to avoid the hammer to hit the strings, when someone add a MIDI sensor to use a real piano as a MIDI controller. So the Silencer would have a feature on Note Edition and people would adjust it the same way they adjust Volume, for create a Split piano for Layers tool.</p><p>After all, if we just silence by volume we still have the sympathetic ressonance being transmited on both pianos (layers).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Antonio M wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m so happy I have post this almost irrelevant idea:</p><p>I was able to layer the HB Steinway on the right and the NY on the left.<br />This gives the clarity on the bass from the NY and the sweetness of the HB on the right.<br />The transition is made in one octave.</p><p>The results and necessity of this will of course depends on the sound system.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973842#p973842</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://dygtyjqp7pi0m.cloudfront.net/i/9935/10686567_2.jpg?v=8CDEEEEF3C85E90" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>New York Hamburger? Coming right up - have a nice day! (Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist) <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>New York Hamburger? Coming right up - have a nice day! (Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist) <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 10:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973831#p973831</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous idea Antonio M - I&#039;ve stitched a few different pianos together with L/R splits for various reasons - but this is indeed an excellent pairing!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Layering the 2 Steinway]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=973825#p973825</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m so happy I have post this almost irrelevant idea:</p><p>I was able to layer the HB Steinway on the right and the NY on the left.<br />This gives the clarity on the bass from the NY and the sweetness of the HB on the right.<br />The transition is made in one octave.</p><p>The results and necessity of this will of course depends on the sound system.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Antonio M)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2021 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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