Warmest regards,

Chris

With a period of ~300 ms there could be ~299 MIDI note events between two keep-alives, so I wouldn't worry.

Can you elaborate on this "active sensing" you mention here please.

Hi Sigassa,

I became aware of it as I watched the flashing red LED on the Tascam US-122 Mk II and wondered what is the p515 transmitting all the time? I can't see how to turn it off and have noticed that sometimes notes do not receive the note-off message and just hang !

Even turning off System Realtime in the function menu does not turn off this particular system realtime message !

It's just unnecessary midi messages being transmitted from the keyboard that I believe can interfere with vital midi data transmission.

May I ask what midi interface / midi cable you use between the P515 and your computer?

..what sigasa asked.

Certainly, I use a Tascam US-122L for the p120s upstairs and a Tascam US-122 Mk IIOne thing I don't particularly like and can't see how to turn it off is the constant Active Sensing the keyboard transmits over MIDI. I feel that it might interfere with more vital info going to PIANOTEQ

Hope that helps?

Hi Smilie,

Can you elaborate on this "active sensing" you mention here please. Are you referring to the P515? What is this active sensing and how does it effect the midi output??? And how did you become aware of it. I have not heard of it. Personally I want the most reliable midi response from the P515. Anything that would interfere with this would be undesirable for me and I also would like to disable anything that would "humanise" the velocity response of the P515.

Let me know your thoughts,

Warmest regards,

Chris

May I ask what midi interface / midi cable you use between the P515 and your computer?

..what sigasa asked.

Certainly, I use a Tascam US-122L for the p120s upstairs and a Tascam US-122 Mk II for the p515 downstairs and run the unit's stereo audio monitor to the internal speakers of the 'piano.' So can play with headphones or 'entertain' others. It works well enough for me. One thing I don't particularly like and can't see how to turn it off is the constant Active Sensing the keyboard transmits over MIDI. I feel that it might interfere with more vital info going to PIANOTEQ

Hope that helps?

Thank you very much Smilie,

Some useful curves indeed!

May I ask what midi interface / midi cable you use between the P515 and your computer?? Thank you,

Warmest regards,

Chris

You could do a spanish tutorial about how
Calibrate curve :)

¿Algunos pueden compartir para p125?

..escrito por el PlayerkaN

¡Hola! ¿Se dice 'noob' en español? No lo sabía...

Por su pregunta... se puede probarles, pero no creo que functionen perfectamente. No tengo el teclado p125, solomente el p120s y p515.

Por favor, perdone la lengua española mia, ha pasado mucho tiempo desde que lo escriba.

¡Que pase un buen día!

Hi! I didn't know you used the word 'noob' in Spanish...

As for your question... you can try them, but I don't think they are a perfect fit. I don't have the p125, just the p120s and p515.

Please forgive my Spanish, it's been a long time since I wrote any.

Have a great day!

Would you post some newer velocity curves; I'd like to try them.

Wrote sigasa

Hi, the ones you've requested are for the p120, but I'm happy to share some for the p515:

LINE

Global Velocity = [0, 0, 114, 127; 0, 0, 127, 127]

LINE/SINE (65%)

Global Velocity = [0, 0, 3, 5, 8, 10, 13, 15, 18, 20, 23, 25, 28, 30, 33, 35, 38, 41, 43, 46, 48, 51, 53, 56, 58, 61, 63, 66, 68, 71, 73, 76, 79, 81, 84, 86, 89, 91, 94, 96, 99, 101, 104, 106, 109, 111, 114, 127; 0, 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, 19, 22, 25, 27, 30, 33, 36, 39, 43, 46, 49, 52, 56, 59, 63, 66, 70, 73, 77, 80, 83, 87, 90, 93, 96, 100, 103, 106, 108, 111, 114, 116, 119, 121, 123, 125, 127, 127]

LINE/SINE (45%)

Global Velocity = [0, 0, 3, 5, 8, 10, 13, 15, 18, 20, 23, 25, 28, 30, 33, 35, 38, 41, 43, 46, 48, 51, 53, 56, 58, 61, 63, 66, 68, 71, 73, 76, 79, 81, 84, 86, 89, 91, 94, 96, 99, 101, 104, 106, 109, 111, 114, 127; 0, 0, 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36, 39, 43, 46, 50, 54, 58, 61, 65, 69, 73, 77, 81, 84, 88, 92, 95, 98, 102, 105, 108, 111, 113, 116, 118, 120, 122, 124, 126, 127, 127]

LINE/SINE (25%)

Global Velocity = [0, 0, 3, 5, 8, 10, 13, 15, 18, 20, 23, 25, 28, 30, 33, 35, 38, 41, 43, 46, 48, 51, 53, 56, 58, 61, 63, 66, 68, 71, 73, 76, 79, 81, 84, 86, 89, 91, 94, 96, 99, 101, 104, 106, 109, 111, 114, 127; 0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 23, 26, 29, 33, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 69, 73, 77, 81, 85, 89, 93, 97, 100, 104, 107, 110, 113, 116, 118, 120, 122, 124, 125, 126, 127, 127]

Hope these are of use to you...

Smilie wrote:

Getting Detailed MIDI Info
Using MIDI-OX and outputting info to a text file for better analysis of playing ...

MIDI-OX
A handy little program that's free to use and opens up a whole new way to deal with vast amounts of midi data. You can filter out SYSEX chains and just concentrate of the stuff you're interested in. To get a good analysis of my playing - I sat and recorded 14 mins of Ragtime on the p515... Here's the resultant screens below:

Spreadsheet Analysis of Note-On, Note-Off and Sustain
Bringing the 14 min data (which is huge) - it's a breeze to sort it into the various events (Note-Off shown) and start to analysis it to better create useful curves for PianoTeq.

Just can't stop 'tinkering' here's the same spreadsheet as above now with an extra curve - a melange between two existing curves. Now I can be as subtle or as dramatic as I please in getting useful curves to play with...

The Curves

I don't know it I've said it before [joke] ... but don't you just LOVE this programme?

Well, I take my hat off to you Smilie - nice job.

Any chance of creating a curve so  that I can really "dig in" if you know what I mean.

Very interesting work. Will continue to follow.

Warmest regards,

Chris

Dear Smilie,

Would you post the velocity curve text files for the new curves (sine and mix) above and any newer ones you have created. I'd like to try them,

Warmest regards,

Chris

I've been thinking [...] I think I'd prefer to watch the progress of your own curve creations.

Quote by sigasa

No worries, I'll do my best...

sigasa wrote:

Any chance of creating a curve so that I can really "dig in" if you know what I mean.

I'll tell you what I can do for you ... why not upload a MIDI recording of you playing the kind of stuff you like playing with good dynamic contrasts and I'll analyse it and give you a choice of curves to try that should be fairly well-suited to your playing style. Aim to play for at least 5-10 mins - you can play for longer if you like, I use Regular expressions to sort out the data I'm looking for, so there's no extra work involved for longer files.

Would that be helpful?

I've been thinking about your question for a few days. To be honest I think I'd prefer to watch the progress of your own curve creations, seeing as you do have the same keyboard as myself, and see what you create.

I used to tune pianos and so I have some idea of how the feel, but I really like the fact that you can really "dig in"  to a grand piano action. I have had curves that enabled me to do just that but have forgotten what they were. I believe they were some kind of power curve i.e. exp

I play mainly classical pieces, although I'm by no means accomplished.

Warmest regards,

Chris

Any chance of creating a curve so that I can really "dig in" if you know what I mean.

I'll tell you what I can do for you ... why not upload a MIDI recording of you playing the kind of stuff you like playing with good dynamic contrasts and I'll analyse it and give you a choice of curves to try that should be fairly well-suited to your playing style. Aim to play for at least 5-10 mins - you can play for longer if you like, I use Regular expressions to sort out the data I'm looking for, so there's no extra work involved for longer files.

Would that be helpful?

Getting Detailed MIDI Info
Using MIDI-OX and outputting info to a text file for better analysis of playing ...

MIDI-OX
A handy little program that's free to use and opens up a whole new way to deal with vast amounts of midi data. You can filter out SYSEX chains and just concentrate of the stuff you're interested in. To get a good analysis of my playing - I sat and recorded 14 mins of Ragtime on the p515... Here's the resultant screens below:

Spreadsheet Analysis of Note-On, Note-Off and Sustain
Bringing the 14 min data (which is huge) - it's a breeze to sort it into the various events (Note-Off shown) and start to analysis it to better create useful curves for PianoTeq.

Just can't stop 'tinkering' here's the same spreadsheet as above now with an extra curve - a melange between two existing curves. Now I can be as subtle or as dramatic as I please in getting useful curves to play with...

The Curves

I don't know it I've said it before [joke] ... but don't you just LOVE this programme?

Well, I take my hat off to you Smilie - nice job.

Any chance of creating a curve so  that I can really "dig in" if you know what I mean.

Very interesting work. Will continue to follow.

Warmest regards,

Chris