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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Adsilent (Silent System) and Pianoteq6?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Qexl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This one doesn&#039;t register 127 velocity, in case it gives a clue to your keys, or something else..<br />Velocity = [0, 37, 69, 108, 126; 4, 20, 51, 79, 109]</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>AlphaTerminus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I mostly use the AdSilent with Pianoteq with no sound as a constant midi recorder so I can go back listen to my playing when learning a new piece while playing the C6 acoustically.&nbsp; If I really want to record a performance on Pianoteq, I generally use the VPC-1.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for your recommendations! <br />The upper curve is not bad. I can even add [127;127] without getting too disturbing impulses.<br />The upgrade to AdSilence would cost around 1450€, which is really a lot. Maybe it wouldn&#039;t be fun enough to do that. Especially, as I&#039;m not keen on the built-in sounds.</p><p>Constant midi recording is great - but Pianoteq does this as well - and I love that everything is recorded, and I don&#039;t have to care for it. Sometimes a spontanious improvisation contains something, that is worth do be written down.</p><p>I have a Kawai ES110, which is nice for the money - and good for travelling, because it&#039;s light. <br />But maybe I should spend these 1400€ better for a VPC-1 or something similar...<br />Good idea!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MartinGr]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Adsilent (Silent System) and Pianoteq6?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use an AdSilent system on my Yamaha C6 with Pianoteq.&nbsp; It works well.&nbsp; </p><p>I didn&#039;t have to set a velocity curve as I was happy with the default.&nbsp; Every once in awhile there are errors like glitches in the sustain or a false key response.&nbsp; 99 percent of the time it is accurate.</p><p>I got the Steingraber piano model version of AdSilent but don&#039;t like the built in sound.&nbsp; The sound is low res.&nbsp; But I don&#039;t like it in Pianoteq either.&nbsp; I use the Bechstein 282 most of the time.</p><p>Honestly though, the Kawai VPC-1 with Pianoteq is a better controller.&nbsp; Silent piano systems just can&#039;t match the subtle nuances of a good dedicated controller such as that.</p><p>I mostly use the AdSilent with Pianoteq with no sound as a constant midi recorder so I can go back listen to my playing when learning a new piece while playing the C6 acoustically.&nbsp; If I really want to record a performance on Pianoteq, I generally use the VPC-1.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AlphaTerminus]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-08-04T07:14:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Adsilent (Silent System) and Pianoteq6?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi MartinGr,</p><p>can&#039;t suggest much about the sensor installation, not in my experience, but just a hope that your curve could still be tweaked until you get new sensors. </p><p>Impossible to know what you&#039;ve tried but, in case something below helps you, here are things I pick up from your description..</p><br /><p>Maybe to something like this?</p><p>Velocity = [0, 41, 86, 114, 127; 6, 22, 58, 85, 127]</p><br /><p>Less extreme one..</p><p>Velocity = [0, 32, 73, 111, 127; 4, 22, 56, 91, 127]</p><br /><p>This one doesn&#039;t register 127 velocity, in case it gives a clue to your keys, or something else..</p><p>Velocity = [0, 37, 69, 108, 126; 4, 20, 51, 79, 109]</p><br /><p><span style="color: #aaa"><em>[for anyone reading who&#039;s not sure what those numbers mean, Pianoteq users can select the line and copy, then right-click and paste into the velocity window to set the velocity curve to better match the keyboard action]</em></span></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-08-03T14:52:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Adsilent (Silent System) and Pianoteq6?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Cellomangler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I recall the early Genio systems transmitted a fixed velocity through MIDI out but that there was an upgraded module that transmitted the full 127 value velocity range.&nbsp; Curious if you have the older system and could just upgrade, but I don&#039;t know the availability... or if possibly the AdSilent is compatible with the Genio keybed sensors.&nbsp; Actually I probably don&#039;t know enough to even be chiming in on this topic. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>But thank you anyway!<br />A fixed velocity it is certainly not (at least not mine)... but I think I have to look in a midi monitor to see what happens exactly in the loudest regions. maybe the 127 is reached too early. Which can&#039;t be fixed afterwards, of course. </p><p>I&#039;m sure I need new keybed sensors, so it won&#039;t be cheap. The only thing I don&#039;t need is the silent mechanic...<br />But I wouldn&#039;t like to rely only on the internal sounds of the AdSilent. It would be nice to know if it&#039;s easy to find a perfect velocity curve for Pianoteq as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MartinGr]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-08-03T12:38:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Adsilent (Silent System) and Pianoteq6?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If I recall the early Genio systems transmitted a fixed velocity through MIDI out but that there was an upgraded module that transmitted the full 127 value velocity range.&nbsp; Curious if you have the older system and could just upgrade, but I don&#039;t know the availability... or if possibly the AdSilent is compatible with the Genio keybed sensors.&nbsp; Actually I probably don&#039;t know enough to even be chiming in on this topic. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cellomangler]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-08-03T12:13:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m thinking of upgrading my silent system on my Bechstein Concert 8 (upright piano). <br />My workaround for some months was, to use the 13 year old Genio/Kurzweil system only as midi out, and Pianoteq6 on a Raspi4 for the sound. But although I&#039;m still happy with Piantoteq and the many sound options, I&#039;m not able to create a velocity curve that I like. Especially the hardest pressure comes to early and unexpected for me.</p><p>So I thought about upgrading the piano to AdSilent. And maybe still use the Raspi4 for the sounds via the front USB of the AdSilent control box. <br />Is anybody here working with this system or likes to share some ideas?</p><p>Regards,<br />Martin</p>]]></content>
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