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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I recently set up Pianoteq 3.6.2 on my Eeepc 1000, which has the Atom 270N processor.&nbsp; I am using Eeebuntu Linux, and I can run it with no problems at a 44100 hz internal sampling rate with a buffer size of 128 and 5.8ms latency.&nbsp; Here are the most important things that made this possible:</p><p>1) Use fluxbox, or a similarly low-profile window manager.</p><p>2) Turn off wifi.&nbsp; This actually made a huge difference.&nbsp; Turn off the actual wifi interface, such that the led is unlit, not merely disconnecting from the internet.</p><p>3) Put the CPU on Maximum Performance mode.&nbsp; This is obvious, but also necessary.</p><p>I never thought I would be able to get Pianoteq to run on this netbook, but it runs perfectly with no xruns.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Coldsalmon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-07-02T14:53:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just to add a few more comments: I have played on the 3.6 for a few months now, and it did wonders. Also the new K1 is really great, as it is less demanding than the other grands, especially the C3.</p><p>So now I am faced with either changing the settings to have limited polyphony or avoiding the most craving instruments. But conclusion is that it did work with the Atom.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Torsten B. Hagemann]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-05-31T21:09:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello chaps,</p><p>May I ask if the Atom CPU optimisations also apply to the Mac version?</p><p>I use Mac OS X 10.5 on a Dell Mini 9, and recall being rather impressed with the performance of the Pianoteq trial in the past (v3.0?).</p><p>Will I notice any significant improvement with the latest release?</p><p>(Yes, I realise that Apple never released any Atom CPU powered systems).</p><p>Cheers,<br />James<br />x</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jmbattle]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-22T01:43:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi,</p><p>We have just released Pianoteq version 3.5.3 , which contains a few improvements targeted at slowest cpus such as Atom. I believe this version will work much better that the previous 3.5 on your setup, using an internal sample rate of ~30000Hz (tested on a eeepc Atom N280 with windows 7 and ubuntu). But one must absolutely disable energy savings (switch off cpu frequency throttling) in order to avoid cracklings.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Hello,<br />good news, and good too see, that you care for us Atom-users! Great!<br />I upgraded to 3.5.3 linux-32bit&nbsp; today.</p><p>With the former 3.5.2 I played all piantoteq-instruments at 44100 Hz / 64 samples 1,5 ms / 48 polyphony / reverb off/ without any problems on my Atom N270. The only instrument, where I had very rarely a small glitch, was the C3. I will see if it now becomes rock-stable as the other instruments with the new 3.5.3. I&#039;ll let you know.</p><p>Else, I have this new option for more &quot;headroom&quot; now by using the new internal samplerate of 29400 Hz, excellent.</p><p>Thanks!<br /> - groovy</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[groovy]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-21T22:09:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Here is what I did on Windows 7: </p><p>With these settings, I can play the embedded Chopin waltz on a single core N280 Atom with a cpu load that stays mostly below 65%</p></blockquote></div><p>Success!</p><p>I also turned off the CPU overload detection.</p><p>I have ASIO 4 All Set at 192 Samples with Allow FullMode (WaveRT) enabled.&nbsp; Also set Force WDM to 16 bit.</p><p>The performance index on the Audio Load meter is reading about 9.</p><p>I think this is the closest to getting exactly what Netbook users have been looking for.</p><p>Great work.<br />Best<br />Simeon</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[simeon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-19T17:52:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I did on Windows 7: </p><p>- select the &quot;performance&quot; power profile. This turns off the cpu freq throttling. You can check that it is really turned off in the pianoteq options / perf panel, which displays the current cpu frequency. On an Atom, it should be constant, and equal to the nominal freq (1.6GHz for current Atoms).</p><p>- in pianoteq, options/devices panel, select 44100 as the soundcard freq, and a 192 samples buffer size</p><p>- in pianoteq, options/perf: select 29400Hz as the internal sample rate, polyphony at 48.</p><p>With these settings, I can play the embedded Chopin waltz on a single core N280 Atom with a cpu load that stays mostly below 65% </p><p>On Linux, it is necessary to follow the instructions of the &quot;README_LINUX.txt&quot; file to grant yourself realtime priviledges, and turn off cpu throttling.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[julien]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-19T17:39:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi,</p><p>We have just released Pianoteq version 3.5.3 , which contains a few improvements targeted at slowest cpus such as Atom. I believe this version will work much better that the previous 3.5 on your setup, using an internal sample rate of ~30000Hz (tested on a eeepc Atom N280 with windows 7 and ubuntu). But one must absolutely disable energy savings (switch off cpu frequency throttling) in order to avoid cracklings.</p></blockquote></div><p>Julien,<br />Where are these settings under Windows 7?</p><p>Looking at the profiles I have it currently set on &quot;High Performance&quot;.</p><p>Best,<br />Simeon</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-19T16:26:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t how updating the GUI affects the performance of Pianoteq but maybe it&#039;s an idea to be able to start Pianoteq in a mini-mode: no GUI (sliders and feedbackgraphs), just a window to be able to close the program. For me, in live situations, there is no need for a GUI because everything is controlled external by midi-controllers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hvaartsen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-18T13:21:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds great - looking forward to try it as soon as I get home from work.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Torsten B. Hagemann]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-17T13:52:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>We have just released Pianoteq version 3.5.3 , which contains a few improvements targeted at slowest cpus such as Atom. I believe this version will work much better that the previous 3.5 on your setup, using an internal sample rate of ~30000Hz (tested on a eeepc Atom N280 with windows 7 and ubuntu). But one must absolutely disable energy savings (switch off cpu frequency throttling) in order to avoid cracklings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[julien]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-17T13:42:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reply to nickfielibert: If you have components and PianoTeq already, then it is an obvioius choice. I started from scratch, and had to weight cost and trouble against the final outcome.</p><p>Good luck, looking forward to hear about your experience.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Torsten B. Hagemann]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-11-04T14:59:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in a nice all-in-a box solution for Pianoteq, you may consider this:<br /><a href="http://us.shuttle.com/event/computex/mediakit/Press%20Kit/Solutions_D10.htm">http://us.shuttle.com/event/computex/me...ns_D10.htm</a></p><p>It is a barebone they sell in Belgium for about 390€. Add a processor, memory and a small HD and you&#039;re all set.<br />Obviously this is not atom based but for example Core2.<br />i&#039;m planning to build one, where I will take out components from my currently used platform.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickfielibert]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-11-04T14:36:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Finally got the setup together, now running PianoTeq 3.5 on the Atom 330. I am using a M-Audio Quattro external sound module, and the settings for the Quattro is set to Very Low Latency (0.8 ms) and a sample rate of 96000 Hz.</p><p>To avoid cracks I have set the internal sample rate in PianoTeq to 24000, otherwise quick runs and slides may cause cracks. Polyphony is at 64, I might be able to increase it (I just adjusted the internal sample rate down from 32000).</p><p>I have tried to see if I can tell any difference from setting the sample rate and polyphony at higher values, and through my headset (rather cheap AKG set) I am not sure. I&#039;m usually quite observant and skilled in sound evaluation, but reading the other post about how much was percieved/imagined, and how much of the sound quality that was &quot;real&quot;, I am so far happy with this setup.</p><p>As a conclusion I am not sure I can recommend the setup on the Atom dual core. My goal was to have a setup that I could bring around together with my midi motherboard, and found out I needed the PC, a sound module and a touch screen (occasionally the PC gets stuck in a message, I need to be able to se that and fix it :-( ). The cost and ending up with three units might be compared to e.g. a Clavia Nord Electro Rack, and playing mainly rock/blues in a rock band it might have been sufficient.</p><p>So in the end I guess I am waiting for an opportunity to get better hardware, and then have a dedicated well-equipped PC to use just for playing piano at home, and then find a solution for when we play a gig.</p><p>Still very happy with PianoTeq, though - just so much wanted the easy and portable stand-alone solution.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Torsten B. Hagemann]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-11-03T09:09:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m using the E-mu 0202 USB/audio interface. The driver that came with it wasn&#039;t that good. Forte Ensemble (the VST host) had problems shutting down (taking minutes). Using ASIO4ALL everything was fine.<br />Polyphony and latency can be exchanged to a certain extend. From what I remember 32 voices is do-able although the CPU load (hyperthreading) is going quit high (like 80..90%). Playing jazz, soul and funk I don&#039;t care much about &gt; 24 notes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kees]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-10-01T19:07:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq on Intel Atom 330]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nickfielibert wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What USB audio module are you using?<br />I would prefer to nave it with internal PCI module, but my experience so far with those is that they are more noisy.</p></blockquote></div><p>I use an M-Audio Quattro.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nickfielibert wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You mention Polyphony of 24 notes (is actually not enough in my mind with pedaling and quick runs over the keyboard) @ 2 ms? Have you tried with higher latency and more polyphony?</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope, but I&#039;d be happy to. Will keep you posted (seems easier to test than Kees suggestions for XP optimising).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Torsten B. Hagemann]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-10-01T13:10:35Z</updated>
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