Update: listened to the recording a second time, and I can't hear anything wrong. If anything, a slight bit of "octavation" on middle C#3, but I would never have complained about it. Again - FWIW. Can you pinpoint an exact time in the recording that I should be focussing on?
Another update: I see that Raymond *did* mean middle C#3 afterall.
To me, this "octavation" characteristic in Erard is quite pleasant - I feel that it's just the character of the instrument, and it doesn't bother me.
Greg.
]]>Is C#3 middle C#3? If so, I didn't really hear a problem when playing the FXP, however, after altering the mic positions, yes, I could *then* hear an improvement. FWIW.
Greg.
I'm confused here. I did my test by hitting the C# BELOW middle C# which is the one shown as the bass of the left hand chord in the last pages of the Chopin partition.
That's where the effect was most prominent. I didn't hear it higher. I know numbering octaves starting from 0 or 1 is confusing, but I think I'm right here.
In fact, a time-lapse spectrum of this C#3 using the given fxp showed that the 2nd harmonic started by decreasing about at the same speed as the fundamental, but then increased to finish at an amplitude HIGHER than the fundamental which explains the sound heard.
I think this is normal behavior for a piano such as the Erard but was emphasized by the mic setup.
]]>Is C#3 middle C#3? If so, I didn't really hear a problem when playing the FXP, however, after altering the mic positions, yes, I could *then* hear an improvement. FWIW.
Greg.
Sorry, yes it was the middle C#. I work in Sonar and there it starts at a different base. I myself did some tweaking, having in mind the previous replies. Finally I found a workable solution.
Raymond
]]>Greg.
]]>Giles and others, thank you for the ultra fast reply and the solution. I certainly will try this. I thoght I had to do with overtones, but couldn't find a workable solution.
Many thanks
Raymond
]]>If you switch to binaural with the same fxp, the second harmonic resonance (on hitting the C#3 for instance) completely disappears!
It seems you have hit on a mic position that picks up or excites more of the second harmonic which is roughly equal in amplitude to the first on the Erard, as I have noticed when doing some spectrum analysis recently.
Notice though that I use the standalone 32bit WinXP version.
]]>The notes on which I'd heard it the most are E3 and C#3. I've cut the Wave file and presented only the last part where you can hear it better. No MP3 format, because then the effect is mainly lost in conversion.
Included:
in wave format the last part of this Nocturne
pdf format of the score I used
fxp settings of "my" Erard
Here is the link to all files:
http://www.box.net/shared/gnvxospy27
With regards,
Raymond
]]>I am working on a sequence of piano pieces of Chopin. The less well known and I am using the Erard - a tiny bit tweaked - and in the Nocturne in C# Op. Posth. I noticed that sometimes the left hand notes produce an overtone one octave higher than written and very pronounced.
I am working with SONAR 8 Producer, 64 bits version. XP64, of course and Pianoteq 64 bits version. In order to facilitate the solution for this, I ask the makers of this GREAT piano, to tell me what they want.
Audio files,
MIDI files,
Pianoteq settings,??? Whatever, I will deliver this to get things right. By the way it is really a great instrument, I love it all the way.
Write to: ramrobijns@hetnet.nl
Have a nice weekend,
Raymond
It would be best if you would provide the audio and .fxp patches, post it in the Files section, then we'll see and hear what's going on
]]>I am working with SONAR 8 Producer, 64 bits version. XP64, of course and Pianoteq 64 bits version. In order to facilitate the solution for this, I ask the makers of this GREAT piano, to tell me what they want.
Audio files,
MIDI files,
Pianoteq settings,
??? Whatever, I will deliver this to get things right. By the way it is really a great instrument, I love it all the way.
Write to: ramrobijns@hetnet.nl
Have a nice weekend,
Raymond
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