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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968379#p968379</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, if anyone will have any MIDI timing problems once MIDI 2.0 officially becomes introduced?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Amen Ptah Ra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968312#p968312</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Haley5 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The problem is in the creation of the MIDI recording itself, not in the &quot;export to audio file&quot; feature.</p></blockquote></div><p>Have you tried to run any tests with 5-pin MIDI DIN connectors along with a USB connection?&nbsp; On macOS an older type serial connection might present more options to you than a newer USB one by itself does.</p><p>With my YAMAHA DIGITAL PIANO P-95 connected via 5-pin MIDI DIN connectors plugged directly into a MOTU Micro Lite (USB MIDI interface) I&#039;ve got some which immediately I can check off the Yamaha Keyboard Properties window inside MIDI Studio of the Audio MIDI Setup on macOS.&nbsp; They seem unavailable to direct MIDI device to computer connections made over only an attached USB cable alone.</p><p>MIDI Beat Clock and MIDI Time Code are additions available as properties I can check off that the keyboard transmits and receives, while General MIDI and MIDI Machine Control I can check off also but as features of the MIDI device whenever connected through 5-pin MIDI DIN connections.</p><p>Each of the designations show under Transmits and Features and has a check box so long as I&#039;m making the adequate connections on MIDI serial cables with their MIDI DIN connectors.</p><p>I’m saying this to say that MIDI Beat Clock and MIDI Time Code, both available to anyone using 5-pin MIDI DIN connectors, also might alleviate some of the MIDI timing problems you experience.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Amen Ptah Ra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968284#p968284</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>NathanShirley wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If everything else is correct I would suspect a sampling rate issue there (something other than 48 kHz).</p></blockquote></div><p>I have experienced that issue. Audio sample rate was 44.1 kHz. I suspected that something within the video-editing/video-exporting process (audio resampling within the app, working or target audio-video format or whatever) caused audio and video to get out of sync. Changed the separately recorded audio to 48 kHz and the audio and video remained in sync.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Stephen_Doonan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2020 11:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968281#p968281</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Some use something called SMPTE as a time code to align an audio file to a video.<br />Whenever your camera has it, you maybe may use it to align your video to also your MIDI.</p></blockquote></div><p>Time code works when you chain two devices together <em>while recording</em>, but typically only professional gear can input/output time code.</p><p>I&#039;ve recorded fairly long video along with Pianoteq without drift issues... but not 3 hours. Camera drift is VERY likely to happen after 3 hours, although 6 minutes is still huge. If everything else is correct I would suspect a sampling rate issue there (something other than 48 kHz). If you get your frame rate messed up in any way within your video editor you will get significant drift too.</p><p>Julien&#039;s idea would definitely be worth checking, I&#039;ve accidentally bumped tempo without realizing it until trying to match exported audio to a video track. One second off in 10 minutes is quite a lot.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (NathanShirley)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2020 05:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968280#p968280</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who has had problems with this. I had a three hour recording. (Very long, I know) but by the end it had gotten over 6 minutes out of sync with both the video, and the original midi file.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Bruckner)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2020 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968087#p968087</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Halley5 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>bump - original post updated at top</p></blockquote></div><p>Are you sure both MIDI files have exactly the same tempo ? I can&#039;t reproduce that , I have recorded a very long midi sequence simultaneaously in Pianoteq 6.7.3, Garageband and Reaper, for 34 minutes, and they all are perfectly in sync when I import the Reaper and Pianoteq midi files in Garageband, and also when I import the wav file generated from Pianoteq in garageband.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968052#p968052</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Halley5 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>bump - original post updated at top</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for your update.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>NathanShirley wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Most video codecs seem to be designed for 48kHz audio. I don&#039;t know all the technicalities, but I do know that matching audio recorded at other sampling rates can cause significant drift over time. In some video editors you can change the sampling rate of the video project, but things can get messy even then.</p><p>Also, different devices, be it a camera, an audio recorder, or a computer, can easily get out of sync from each other. Some cameras, and even audio recorders don&#039;t have great internal clocks.</p><p>Not sure what your particular issue is being caused by, so just throwing out some possibilities.</p></blockquote></div><p>Some use something called SMPTE as a time code to align an audio file to a video.<br />Whenever your camera has it, you maybe may use it to align your video to also your MIDI.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Amen Ptah Ra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=968044#p968044</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>bump - original post updated at top</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Halley5)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq STILL Creates SLOW MIDI Files]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=967545#p967545</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Most video codecs seem to be designed for 48kHz audio. I don&#039;t know all the technicalities, but I do know that matching audio recorded at other sampling rates can cause significant drift over time. In some video editors you can change the sampling rate of the video project, but things can get messy even then.</p><p>Also, different devices, be it a camera, an audio recorder, or a computer, can easily get out of sync from each other. Some cameras, and even audio recorders don&#039;t have great internal clocks.</p><p>Not sure what your particular issue is being caused by, so just throwing out some possibilities.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (NathanShirley)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2020 06:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=967532#p967532</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem is still there in version 6.7.1.</p><p>I used a digital stopwatch to time myself playing for exactly 10 minutes, and when I timed the playback from Pianoteq (without exporting to audio) I got an increase of 1 second. (Actual numbers: live playing: 9:59.96, playback: 10:01.00)</p><p>I made a video test which became gradually out of sync like before, and another test using Pianoteq as a VST in Garageband, which had no problems, stayed in sync, and passed my stopwatch test.</p><p>I appreciate the attention this issue is getting.</p><p>-Jordan</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=966827#p966827</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>My personal thanks go to Halley5, who seems to have gotten a ball rolling!</p><p>Thank you, man.</p><p>And julien, I appreciate your having fixed a title bar display of the new <strong>EQUALIZER</strong>.</p><p>Thank you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Amen Ptah Ra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=966743#p966743</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>xooorx wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But &quot;Export to audio file&quot; seems to be rendering the files at exactly 521.00 microseconds per tick: It&#039;s a rounding error!</p></blockquote></div><p>Good catch, xooorx, this is fixed in Pianoteq 6.7.1 !</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2020 12:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=966685#p966685</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice detective work xoooorx!&nbsp; That lines up pretty well with my measurements.</p><p>It&#039;s worth noting that Pianoteq does the right thing when you run it as a VST instrument within a DAW.&nbsp; The problem is only when you use Pianoteq&#039;s standalone export function.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (hanysz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 01:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clear explanation!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (scherbakov.al)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 20:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=966677#p966677</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#039;ve got to the bottom of &quot;Export to audio file&quot; running slow.</p><p>Pianoteq MIDI files specify a division of 960 ticks per quarter note, at a tempo of 500000 microseconds per quarter note.</p><p>So that should work out to 520.8333333 microseconds per tick.</p><p>But &quot;Export to audio file&quot; seems to be rendering the files at exactly 521.00 microseconds per tick: It&#039;s a rounding error!</p><p>This might seem a tiny difference but it&#039;s enough to drift noticeably out of sync with video within a few minutes, and to be just plain wrong a few minutes after that.</p><p>And if the exported audio ever gets mixed with a line recording then it&#039;s enough to cause phasing problems right from the start.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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