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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Kacper_ek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sure.&nbsp; Do you use the VPC Editor?</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t use this software because PIanoteq works on Linux and there is no native Kawai application for this operating system. However, with linux WINE, at least when I tried to run it, it didn&#039;t work well.</p></blockquote></div><p>Code Weavers software uses WINE.&nbsp; Maybe it’ll work.&nbsp; A demo of it is available: <a href="https://www.codeweavers.com/">https://www.codeweavers.com/</a>.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Good quality instruments come out of the factory (manufactories) pre-adjusted. They reach the buyer and the fun begins;) Along with the hours spent on the instrument, it plays out and the process of wear occurs. Narrowing down to pianos - mechanical parts wear out. Depending on the intensity of the owner&#039;s exercises, the use of individual instrument registers - some parts wear out faster, others more slowly. There are many variables responsible for instrument degradation. VPC1 also has many mechanical parts that can be degraded. My instrument is 2 years old, it is used often, but so far I have not noticed the alarming wear inequalities.</p></blockquote></div><p>I was wondering if the VPC1 is like an acoustic piano.&nbsp; Which when it arrives at a dealership requires regulation performed by the dealer.&nbsp; That is right after it was shipped from out of the factory to the dealership.</p><p>You see many complain key weights are uneven: <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=6886">https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=6886</a>.&nbsp; Which might suggest <strong>Kawai</strong> expects experienced or informed pianists to treat each of its model controllers just as an unregulated piano instrument.&nbsp; That requires a technician’s attention.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>In addition, in an ideal world (which does not exist), each performance should be carried out on a perfectly tuned instrument. Some time ago, with my friend, I recorded several songs by composer Charles Camilleri on a classic Steinway Grand. Even during the recording, the instrument could be slightly out of tune and the recording had to be repeated. This is not a problem with a digital instrument.The torment of pianists is that each time they play on a different instrument (I&#039;m talking about concerts here) and they have to adapt to real-time conditions in real time.<br />(OK, it&#039;s not so simple - before concerts of BIG BIG classical stars tuners prepare an instrument for them).<br />Unlike, for example, violinists who always play the same own instrument.</p></blockquote></div><p>Now Melodyne is the software from <strong>Celemony </strong>that permits retunings on piano audio tracks after the fact on any recording session.&nbsp; Its availability is from <a href="https://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/what-is-melodyne"><strong>Celemony</strong></a>.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Kacper_ek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But, what was evident to me is a lack of uniformity across controller velocities as I look and listen to your post (above).</p></blockquote></div><p>Could you specify?<br />Does this mean a lack of sound consistency in this recording, no consistency in shaping the phrase?</p></blockquote></div><p>Inconsistencies seem to occur from one key to another in individual key volumes maybe because of inconsistent key weights throughout the keyboard.&nbsp; That is my observation.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Finally, a sample from Charles Camilleri&#039;s Divertimento recording. I hope you will like it.<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/charles-camilleri-divertimentono2-third-movement">https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/c...d-movement</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Man, that piece echoes industrial workings!&nbsp; I’m hearing perhaps an influence, of Eric Dolphy?&nbsp; One of my best buddies when I was in a junior high and a high school played bass clarinet, as we marched in parades and performed in concerts throughout Los Angeles County.&nbsp; Personally I like to hear a clarinet in any music, that is avant-garde!&nbsp; Included are of course the both movements you posted!</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>PaptainClanet wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So good! Love the song, powerful playing, great sound.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-22T20:34:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So good! Love the song, powerful playing, great sound.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-22T16:46:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Stephen. Forgive me, but I&#039;m not sure if you meant my first post with the recording of &quot;Spanish Orange&quot; or the part of Divertimento by Ch. Camilleri.</p><p>I think this movement is more jazzy than the third one <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><p><a href="https://hearthis.at/kacperek/i/">https://hearthis.at/kacperek/i/</a></p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Stephen_Doonan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What a wonderful piece, and great performance. Beautiful rhythms and jazz-inflected chords and scales. Is this your own composition? Chick Corea might be envious. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-19T15:40:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful piece, and great performance. Beautiful rhythms and jazz-inflected chords and scales. Is this your own composition? Chick Corea might be envious. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-18T17:35:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sure.&nbsp; Do you use the VPC Editor?</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t use this software because PIanoteq works on Linux and there is no native Kawai application for this operating system. However, with linux WINE, at least when I tried to run it, it didn&#039;t work well. On the MIDI controller I have set the standard touch curve - red LED, and all changes are made in PIanoteq. I tried to test with KAWAI&#039;s dedicated Pianoteq settings, but the touch of the keyboard did not match the sound that came from the speakers (if you know what I mean). I am a classical pianist who spent playing MANY hours on &quot;analog&quot; instruments of all possible companies, that&#039;s why feeling the keyboard was and is my priority.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Apparently, the VPC1 is fine without a VPC Editor.&nbsp; The new instrument controller needs no regulation like a newly purchased acoustic piano from a piano dealership.<br />Please correct me, if I’m mistaken about my analogizing a new VPC1 to a yet unregulated piano new off a showroom.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think you&#039;re right about the new instrument - whether analogue or digital. Good quality instruments come out of the factory (manufactories) pre-adjusted. They reach the buyer and the fun begins;) Along with the hours spent on the instrument, it plays out and the process of wear occurs. Narrowing down to pianos - mechanical parts wear out. Depending on the intensity of the owner&#039;s exercises, the use of individual instrument registers - some parts wear out faster, others more slowly. There are many variables responsible for instrument degradation. VPC1 also has many mechanical parts that can be degraded. My instrument is 2 years old, it is used often, but so far I have not noticed the alarming wear inequalities. In addition, in an ideal world (which does not exist), each performance should be carried out on a perfectly tuned instrument. Some time ago, with my friend, I recorded several songs by composer Charles Camilleri on a classic Steinway Grand. Even during the recording, the instrument could be slightly out of tune and the recording had to be repeated. This is not a problem with a digital instrument.The torment of pianists is that each time they play on a different instrument (I&#039;m talking about concerts here) and they have to adapt to real-time conditions in real time.<br />(OK, it&#039;s not so simple - before concerts of BIG BIG classical stars tuners prepare an instrument for them).<br />Unlike, for example, violinists who always play the same own instrument.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But, what was evident to me is a lack of uniformity across controller velocities as I look and listen to your post (above).</p></blockquote></div><p>Could you specify?<br />Does this mean a lack of sound consistency in this recording, no consistency in shaping the phrase?</p><p>Finally, a sample from Charles Camilleri&#039;s Divertimento recording. I hope you will like it.<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/charles-camilleri-divertimentono2-third-movement">https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/c...d-movement</a><br />Best regards from Poland</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-18T07:46:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Kacper_ek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can you specify a question about controller adjustment?</p></blockquote></div><p>Sure.&nbsp; Do you use the VPC Editor?</p><p>I raise this question only as veteran forum members who also use <strong>PIANO</strong>TEQ in conjunction with the Kawai VPC1 have individually posted various velocity curves, each very different.&nbsp; I got a link now (<a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=2914">here</a>).</p><p>Since I am mainly a drummer looking to record a jazz trio with virtual instruments, I’ve a curiosity about keyboard choices, available hardware models, and velocity curves modern keyboardists use satisfactorily.&nbsp; Although, which curves might vary on any given keyboard model, including the Kawai VPC1.</p><p>Apparently, the VPC1 is fine without a VPC Editor.&nbsp; The new instrument controller needs no regulation like a newly purchased acoustic piano from a piano dealership.</p><p>Please correct me, if I’m mistaken about my analogizing a new VPC1 to a yet unregulated piano new off a showroom.&nbsp; But, what was evident to me is a lack of uniformity across controller velocities as I look and listen to your post (above).</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the kind words regarding my recording. I set the keyboard velocity to the standard &quot;fast keyboard&quot; because, in my opinion, that most faithfully reflects a real piano touch of this KAWAI. Other characteristics (pedal, note-off) were calibrated individually.<br />I used the BA settings for this recording, but I additionally modified the microphone settings slightly and some other options. Yes, I&#039;m using ver. 6.7.0 <br />Can you specify a question about controller adjustment? Do you mean strings tuning, or weight regulation of keys?<br />About posting my YT recordings - I hope these recordings are interesting. If you want I can paste links to them in the next post <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Best regards</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Amen Ptah Ra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>While I like your performance, I wonder if your MIDI controller has an uneven or inaccurate velocity response across keys.&nbsp; Although you indicate <strong>Steinway D Jazz Recording BA </strong>or <strong>Steinway D Jazz Recording AB </strong>preset with your modifications.&nbsp; Have you v.6.7.0?&nbsp; Do controllers like yours require regulation like an acoustic piano does?</p><p>Now about “Cool Blues” by Mike Cornick, have to say I like er dig it the most!</p><p>Man, why don’t you just post it?</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-17T20:34:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: "Spanish orange" composed by Grzegorz Mi?kiewicz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>While I like your performance, I wonder if your MIDI controller has an uneven or inaccurate velocity response across keys.&nbsp; Although you indicate <strong>Steinway D Jazz Recording BA </strong>or <strong>Steinway D Jazz Recording AB </strong>preset with your modifications.&nbsp; Have you v.6.7.0?&nbsp; Do controllers like yours require regulation like an acoustic piano does?</p><p>Now about “Cool Blues” by Mike Cornick, have to say I like er dig it the most!</p><p>Man, why don’t you just post it?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-17T09:00:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone.<br />Here is my new recording of a piece called &quot;Spanish orange&quot;. To accomplished that mission, I used Steinway Model D and Jazz recording setup with some mods of mine. I hope you&#039;ll enjoy.<br />Best regards to all of you in this terrible quarantine times.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/qHN5dWI4U6I">https://youtu.be/qHN5dWI4U6I</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-17T05:59:06Z</updated>
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