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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Professor Leandro Duarte wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;s really very good. First, because it is possible to obtain a great natural delay effect using only the positioning of mics, without using DSP effects that require more processing and CPU. Second, because it offers a good perspective for both the listener and the player. In addition, it offers an incredible sense of closeness, as if the instrument, in fact, was in front of me. Congratulations!</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tmyoung]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-20T11:12:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tmyoung wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Very interesting settings!&nbsp; I&#039;d also recommend trying two pure omnis at the following locations:</p><p>X = +0.380<br />Y = +2.220<br />Z = 0.840<br />Angle = +180.0<br />Vertical Angle = -90.0</p><p>And</p><p>X = +0.740<br />Y = +1.080<br />Z = 0.844<br />Angle = -180.0<br />Vertical Angle = -90.0</p><p>This represents (essentially) the middle of the bass and treble bridges.&nbsp; You have to heavily mix down each mic, even with level and delay compensation off.&nbsp; I recommend -6db for mic #1 to left channel only and -18db for mic #2 to right channel only.&nbsp; I&#039;m still refining how to best mix the mics into a stereo field though.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It&#039;s really very good. First, because it is possible to obtain a great natural delay effect using only the positioning of mics, without using DSP effects that require more processing and CPU. Second, because it offers a good perspective for both the listener and the player. In addition, it offers an incredible sense of closeness, as if the instrument, in fact, was in front of me. Congratulations!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Professor Leandro Duarte]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-18T16:44:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting settings!&nbsp; I&#039;d also recommend trying two pure omnis at the following locations:</p><p>X = +0.380<br />Y = +2.220<br />Z = 0.840<br />Angle = +180.0<br />Vertical Angle = -90.0</p><p>And</p><p>X = +0.740<br />Y = +1.080<br />Z = 0.844<br />Angle = -180.0<br />Vertical Angle = -90.0</p><p>This represents (essentially) the middle of the bass and treble bridges.&nbsp; You have to heavily mix down each mic, even with level and delay compensation off.&nbsp; I recommend -6db for mic #1 to left channel only and -18db for mic #2 to right channel only.&nbsp; I&#039;m still refining how to best mix the mics into a stereo field though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tmyoung]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-18T12:08:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jake Johnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Interesting find. Why did you choose the X axis number? Given the other settings, any X axis number that leaves the mic inside the piano should be touching the soundboard, as long as the Z (height) axis stays the same, yes? I ask because your figure of 0.268 puts the mic on the far left side of the soundboard. (Why would that be the central point of the acoustic propogation?)</p><p>Regardless, thanks for posting this.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You&#039;re right. The primary value is &quot;Z&quot; (height). X and Y are irrelevant as long as they are in the piano area. The X and Y axes have small blind spots, if you move it carefully you will notice a sound cancellation.</p><p>Another important factor is the microphone. Saturation occurs best in the cardioid at an inclined angle 0 or 180 (up or down). The omni is not so clear, but there is a significant increase in volume. In addition, level and delay compensation must be turned off.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Professor Leandro Duarte]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-17T14:33:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting find. Why did you choose the X axis number? Given the other settings, any X axis number that leaves the mic inside the piano should be touching the soundboard, as long as the Z (height) axis stays the same, yes? I ask because your figure of 0.268 puts the mic on the far left side of the soundboard. (Why would that be the central point of the acoustic propogation?)</p><p>Regardless, thanks for posting this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-16T03:55:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just went off to try this - thank you Professor, it does have quite an interesting sound.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-16T01:56:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mk4UmHa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How did you even find the coordinates, pretty cool, thanks.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Right-clicking on the microphone</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-16T01:44:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: placing the microphone in contact with the acoustic board]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How did you even find the coordinates, pretty cool, thanks.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-15T23:23:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Recently, playing a little and experimenting with the microphonation of the Pianoteq, I discovered that there is a mic position that corresponds to the central point of the acoustic propagation spectrum. In practice, it is like touching the microphone to the piano board.</p><p>I still didn&#039;t know it was possible, but I found it interesting and decided to share it with someone who, perhaps, like me, did not know:</p><br /><p>cardioid mic 1</p><p>X = +0.268</p><p>Y = +0.588</p><p>Z = 0.840</p><p>Angle = 0</p><p>Vertical Angle = 0</p><br /><p>cardioid mic 2</p><p>X = +1,202</p><p>Y = +0.520</p><p>Z = 0.844</p><p>Angle = 0</p><p>Vertical Angle = 0</p><br /><p>I did it using Steinway D.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Professor Leandro Duarte]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-04-15T14:53:12Z</updated>
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