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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I cannot use trials (I use Windows), but are there any demos of PT GrandArtist presets (preferably classical pieces)?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Dick van Dyke wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Answers to al above mentioned: available options in regards to velocity and recording:</p><p>1. Velocity in the Preferences Pane within the GrandArtist App provides lineair top and bottom adjustment changing the sound from loud and clear to soft and round. Mostly just to lower the Max Velocity creates a pleasant and a very playable sound.<br />2. An extern velocity editor provides more refined velocity curves even per tone. This is possible with Velpro. <br /><a href="https://springbeats.com/velpro/#get-started">https://springbeats.com/velpro/#get-started</a>&nbsp; <br />Works perfectly with your keyboard and the GrandArtist App. It creates your own curve for your MIDI keyboard with Velpro.<br />3. Velocity adjustment in a DAW like Logic Pro.: Select the Velocity Processor in your track channel to adjust. The GA App witch&nbsp; is connected via Utility / External Instrument...responds to the adjustments. In depth info on: <a href="https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-software/problem-solving-with-velocity-curves-in-logic-pro-x">https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-s...ogic-pro-x</a></p><p>MIDI and Audio are recordable in Logic. Handy Apps to switch and interact between Apps and even DAWS are:</p><p>– BlueCat Connector <a href="https://www.bluecataudio.com/Main/Home/">https://www.bluecataudio.com/Main/Home/</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;connects Apps on your computer and you could use easily Effects and Apps from different locations on your computer and other computers..</p><p>– Loopback and Audio Hijack <a href="https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback">https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; records audio from virtual devices systemwide</p><p>Best regards,<br />Dick</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>[1. Velocity in the Preferences Pane within the GrandArtist App provides lineair top and bottom adjustment changing the sound from loud and clear to soft and round. Mostly just to lower the Max Velocity creates a pleasant and a very playable sound.]</p><p>I am sure you will agree we are far from the standard of what defines a velocity editor. At a minimum , you need to be able to generate multiple curves, concave, convex, s-shapes .</p><p>[2. An extern velocity editor provides more refined velocity curves even per tone. This is possible with Velpro. <br />Works perfectly with your keyboard and the GrandArtist App. It creates your own curve for your MIDI keyboard with Velpro.]</p><p>Unfortunately I suppose it won&#039;t work ( unless I missed an option as it was the test version that I used) because Grand Artist doesn&#039;t offer the possibility to select&nbsp; midi inputs therefore it will capture all midi inputs&nbsp; which means you are going&nbsp; to capture the original midi controller midi input + the midi output going out of Velpro application, so you will end up with 2 pianos in parallel with different velocities. </p><p>[3. Velocity adjustment in a DAW like Logic Pro.: Select the Velocity Processor in your track channel to adjust.]</p><p>I don&#039;t think I will work either as Velocity Processor&nbsp; is a Midi FX plug in and doesn&#039;t work with audio tracks, only with midi tracks. So Grand Artist will need to exist as a VST passing midi data to Logic Pro, so Midi FX plugins can work </p><p>4 [Recording&nbsp; solutions]&nbsp; It will work but again you expect the fonctionnality to work either natively within a DAW or the UI without the need to have a third party application or aggregate devices using virtual output devices.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-02T21:42:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sharpnine wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>I was prompted to try out GrandArtist because of this thread. I have the full pianoteq studio, and it seemed like a nice, inexpensive way to leverage what I already have (and it is). There are a huge number of presets spanning many pianos. Since I have the full studio I can use all of them. </p><p>I had a couple issues figuring out how to install and run it on my mac laptop, although the main issue turned out to be that I had Pianoteq 8.0 on my mac (not 8.1 which I am running on my iPad and iPhone). The newest version of GrandArtist does not work with versions earlier than 8.1 apparently. I believe the documentation stated 8.1 was required, so that was my mistake.</p><p>Dick Schouton, the creator of GrandArtist, responded to my emails quickly and helpfully. Consider: I only paid 24.50 (euros)&nbsp; for this, as he is running a 50% off sale. To get any support at all, for that price, is saying a lot (I&#039;m a software developer and have sold my programs online like this, so I know all about it). It&#039;s clearly a labor of love for Dick, and he gets high marks from me for support.</p><p>I like the sounds I&#039;ve tried, and I have fun clicking the random button and getting a random preset from the many hundreds available. The sounds are good, like Pianoteq. It&#039;s hard for me to compare presets as Pianoteq also offers so many, and I can&#039;t say much about which are better--just that there are many additional ones.</p><p>Regarding the issues/critiques above: <br />I also miss the velocity curves, being able to store them per keyboard. I have a stiff keyboard (arturia keylab 88) and I use a very light curve to compensate. I switched the keyboard itself to a lighter curve, but it doesn&#039;t have the finesse that the pianoteq curves give me. I would like to see better support for those added.</p><p>Regarding recording, it does not have a recording option, and from what I read, it isn&#039;t really designed to be used for recording, but more for live performance. The idea is that you have a selection of sounds good for live, and these only have a few adjustments for eq, reverb and compression levels. Probably what you want in a live performance.&nbsp; &nbsp;My problem here is that since 8.1 came out for the iPad, I generally use Pianoteq on my iPad for live performance, and on my laptop for recording and studio use. So it doesn&#039;t fit my use case too well.</p><p>I was able to use my existing blackhole driver on my mac (<a href="https://existential.audio/blackhole/">https://existential.audio/blackhole/</a>) to route the audio from GrandArtist to Logic Pro on my mac. This worked fine and was very easy to select. I do feel the audio quality was a little compromised by the re-routing however. That&#039;s probably a matter of tweaking all the levels on GrandArtist, Logic Pro, the mac and everything else :-). I&#039;m pretty sure it could work with the daw, with the advantage then being that you could use all the Logic Pro effects, mix it with other instruments, etc. (and record, of course).</p><p>It also seems to me that settings don&#039;t get saved. Each time I start GrandArtist I have to go back in settings and choose my output device, for instance. Tweaks to presets don&#039;t get remembered either.</p><p>Overall I am very happy that Dick has created this product, and provided it at a very reasonable price. However I don&#039;t care for the user interface limitations and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll use it much except to play around and get ideas from. I&#039;d encourage Dick to make the presets available just as presets, that can be loaded into the Pianoteq UI. I would be happy to pay as much (or more) for those, and he wouldn&#039;t have do so much app support and could concentrate just on the sounds. And I could use them with my iPad!</p></blockquote></div><p> the main issue of not being to use it in within a DAW such as logic is the fact that you cannot use scripter or fine midi editing.&nbsp; The problem with velocity&nbsp; curve is that the majority of digital pianos only have a few setup velocity curves essentially done to be compatible with the mapping of internal bank sounds . Only a handful of DP such as VPC1 offer the ability to generate velocity curves as a DAW .&nbsp; So the only solution if you don’t have such a keyboard is to use midi scripts with DAW that supports midi scripting such as Logic to create your own curve . Unfortunately in absence of VST routing audio within your DAW won’t allow any scripting , so you are basically stuck . I really think that not being able to tune velocity is a fundamental show stopper no matter whether you play live or not . Again it’s a pity as the presets sound really nice . One question I have though is to which extent the existing pianoteq have been adjusted vs just taking them as is and just adding very good EQ and compression .&nbsp; As sometimes adding good EQ with multiple bands is like day and night .</p></blockquote></div><p>Answers to al above mentioned: available options in regards to velocity and recording:</p><p>1. Velocity in the Preferences Pane within the GrandArtist App provides lineair top and bottom adjustment changing the sound from loud and clear to soft and round. Mostly just to lower the Max Velocity creates a pleasant and a very playable sound.<br />2. An extern velocity editor provides more refined velocity curves even per tone. This is possible with Velpro. <br /><a href="https://springbeats.com/velpro/#get-started">https://springbeats.com/velpro/#get-started</a>&nbsp; <br />Works perfectly with your keyboard and the GrandArtist App. It creates your own curve for your MIDI keyboard with Velpro.<br />3. Velocity adjustment in a DAW like Logic Pro.: Select the Velocity Processor in your track channel to adjust. The GA App witch&nbsp; is connected via Utility / External Instrument...responds to the adjustments. In depth info on: <a href="https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-software/problem-solving-with-velocity-curves-in-logic-pro-x">https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-s...ogic-pro-x</a></p><p>MIDI and Audio are recordable in Logic. Handy Apps to switch and interact between Apps and even DAWS are:</p><p>– BlueCat Connector <a href="https://www.bluecataudio.com/Main/Home/">https://www.bluecataudio.com/Main/Home/</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;connects Apps on your computer and you could use easily Effects and Apps from different locations on your computer and other computers..</p><p>– Loopback and Audio Hijack <a href="https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback">https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; records audio from virtual devices systemwide</p><p>Best regards,<br />Dick</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-02T11:34:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sharpnine wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>I was prompted to try out GrandArtist because of this thread. I have the full pianoteq studio, and it seemed like a nice, inexpensive way to leverage what I already have (and it is). There are a huge number of presets spanning many pianos. Since I have the full studio I can use all of them. </p><p>I had a couple issues figuring out how to install and run it on my mac laptop, although the main issue turned out to be that I had Pianoteq 8.0 on my mac (not 8.1 which I am running on my iPad and iPhone). The newest version of GrandArtist does not work with versions earlier than 8.1 apparently. I believe the documentation stated 8.1 was required, so that was my mistake.</p><p>Dick Schouton, the creator of GrandArtist, responded to my emails quickly and helpfully. Consider: I only paid 24.50 (euros)&nbsp; for this, as he is running a 50% off sale. To get any support at all, for that price, is saying a lot (I&#039;m a software developer and have sold my programs online like this, so I know all about it). It&#039;s clearly a labor of love for Dick, and he gets high marks from me for support.</p><p>I like the sounds I&#039;ve tried, and I have fun clicking the random button and getting a random preset from the many hundreds available. The sounds are good, like Pianoteq. It&#039;s hard for me to compare presets as Pianoteq also offers so many, and I can&#039;t say much about which are better--just that there are many additional ones.</p><p>Regarding the issues/critiques above: <br />I also miss the velocity curves, being able to store them per keyboard. I have a stiff keyboard (arturia keylab 88) and I use a very light curve to compensate. I switched the keyboard itself to a lighter curve, but it doesn&#039;t have the finesse that the pianoteq curves give me. I would like to see better support for those added.</p><p>Regarding recording, it does not have a recording option, and from what I read, it isn&#039;t really designed to be used for recording, but more for live performance. The idea is that you have a selection of sounds good for live, and these only have a few adjustments for eq, reverb and compression levels. Probably what you want in a live performance.&nbsp; &nbsp;My problem here is that since 8.1 came out for the iPad, I generally use Pianoteq on my iPad for live performance, and on my laptop for recording and studio use. So it doesn&#039;t fit my use case too well.</p><p>I was able to use my existing blackhole driver on my mac (<a href="https://existential.audio/blackhole/">https://existential.audio/blackhole/</a>) to route the audio from GrandArtist to Logic Pro on my mac. This worked fine and was very easy to select. I do feel the audio quality was a little compromised by the re-routing however. That&#039;s probably a matter of tweaking all the levels on GrandArtist, Logic Pro, the mac and everything else :-). I&#039;m pretty sure it could work with the daw, with the advantage then being that you could use all the Logic Pro effects, mix it with other instruments, etc. (and record, of course).</p><p>It also seems to me that settings don&#039;t get saved. Each time I start GrandArtist I have to go back in settings and choose my output device, for instance. Tweaks to presets don&#039;t get remembered either.</p><p>Overall I am very happy that Dick has created this product, and provided it at a very reasonable price. However I don&#039;t care for the user interface limitations and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll use it much except to play around and get ideas from. I&#039;d encourage Dick to make the presets available just as presets, that can be loaded into the Pianoteq UI. I would be happy to pay as much (or more) for those, and he wouldn&#039;t have do so much app support and could concentrate just on the sounds. And I could use them with my iPad!</p></blockquote></div><p> the main issue of not being to use it in within a DAW such as logic is the fact that you cannot use scripter or fine midi editing.&nbsp; The problem with velocity&nbsp; curve is that the majority of digital pianos only have a few setup velocity curves essentially done to be compatible with the mapping of internal bank sounds . Only a handful of DP such as VPC1 offer the ability to generate velocity curves as a DAW .&nbsp; So the only solution if you don’t have such a keyboard is to use midi scripts with DAW that supports midi scripting such as Logic to create your own curve . Unfortunately in absence of VST routing audio within your DAW won’t allow any scripting , so you are basically stuck . I really think that not being able to tune velocity is a fundamental show stopper no matter whether you play live or not . Again it’s a pity as the presets sound really nice . One question I have though is to which extent the existing pianoteq have been adjusted vs just taking them as is and just adding very good EQ and compression .&nbsp; As sometimes adding good EQ with multiple bands is like day and night .</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-08-23T11:43:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>I was prompted to try out GrandArtist because of this thread. I have the full pianoteq studio, and it seemed like a nice, inexpensive way to leverage what I already have (and it is). There are a huge number of presets spanning many pianos. Since I have the full studio I can use all of them. </p><p>I had a couple issues figuring out how to install and run it on my mac laptop, although the main issue turned out to be that I had Pianoteq 8.0 on my mac (not 8.1 which I am running on my iPad and iPhone). The newest version of GrandArtist does not work with versions earlier than 8.1 apparently. I believe the documentation stated 8.1 was required, so that was my mistake.</p><p>Dick Schouton, the creator of GrandArtist, responded to my emails quickly and helpfully. Consider: I only paid 24.50 (euros)&nbsp; for this, as he is running a 50% off sale. To get any support at all, for that price, is saying a lot (I&#039;m a software developer and have sold my programs online like this, so I know all about it). It&#039;s clearly a labor of love for Dick, and he gets high marks from me for support.</p><p>I like the sounds I&#039;ve tried, and I have fun clicking the random button and getting a random preset from the many hundreds available. The sounds are good, like Pianoteq. It&#039;s hard for me to compare presets as Pianoteq also offers so many, and I can&#039;t say much about which are better--just that there are many additional ones.</p><p>Regarding the issues/critiques above: <br />I also miss the velocity curves, being able to store them per keyboard. I have a stiff keyboard (arturia keylab 88) and I use a very light curve to compensate. I switched the keyboard itself to a lighter curve, but it doesn&#039;t have the finesse that the pianoteq curves give me. I would like to see better support for those added.</p><p>Regarding recording, it does not have a recording option, and from what I read, it isn&#039;t really designed to be used for recording, but more for live performance. The idea is that you have a selection of sounds good for live, and these only have a few adjustments for eq, reverb and compression levels. Probably what you want in a live performance.&nbsp; &nbsp;My problem here is that since 8.1 came out for the iPad, I generally use Pianoteq on my iPad for live performance, and on my laptop for recording and studio use. So it doesn&#039;t fit my use case too well.</p><p>I was able to use my existing blackhole driver on my mac (<a href="https://existential.audio/blackhole/">https://existential.audio/blackhole/</a>) to route the audio from GrandArtist to Logic Pro on my mac. This worked fine and was very easy to select. I do feel the audio quality was a little compromised by the re-routing however. That&#039;s probably a matter of tweaking all the levels on GrandArtist, Logic Pro, the mac and everything else :-). I&#039;m pretty sure it could work with the daw, with the advantage then being that you could use all the Logic Pro effects, mix it with other instruments, etc. (and record, of course).</p><p>It also seems to me that settings don&#039;t get saved. Each time I start GrandArtist I have to go back in settings and choose my output device, for instance. Tweaks to presets don&#039;t get remembered either.</p><p>Overall I am very happy that Dick has created this product, and provided it at a very reasonable price. However I don&#039;t care for the user interface limitations and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll use it much except to play around and get ideas from. I&#039;d encourage Dick to make the presets available just as presets, that can be loaded into the Pianoteq UI. I would be happy to pay as much (or more) for those, and he wouldn&#039;t have do so much app support and could concentrate just on the sounds. And I could use them with my iPad!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sharpnine]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-22T23:31:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Philippe Guillaume wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>The only limitations in the trial version are that a few notes are disabled and it stops after 20 minutes (but still you can start it again). You can in particular use the VST or AU version in a DAW, as well as record and export midi and audio files. Regarding velocity, this is keyboard dependant, and many users here have provided specific velocity curves, see <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10">https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10</a>. Hope it helps!</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Philippe , I think you are referring to pianoteq itself , but what we are talking about here is a standalone application called grandartist&nbsp; built in top of pianoteq which comes with its own interface and this interface basically only works in standalone mode and bypass all pianoteq adjustments, leaving only the end user with reverb , EQ , and compression, minimum adjustments.&nbsp; In a way , it’s like using pianoteq engine as a white label platform .</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, stupid me, sorry for the confusion!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Philippe Guillaume]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T16:09:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Philippe Guillaume wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>The only limitations in the trial version are that a few notes are disabled and it stops after 20 minutes (but still you can start it again). You can in particular use the VST or AU version in a DAW, as well as record and export midi and audio files. Regarding velocity, this is keyboard dependant, and many users here have provided specific velocity curves, see <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10">https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10</a>. Hope it helps!</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Philippe , I think you are referring to pianoteq itself , but what we are talking about here is a standalone application called grandartist&nbsp; built in top of pianoteq which comes with its own interface and this interface basically only works in standalone mode and bypass all pianoteq adjustments, leaving only the end user with reverb , EQ , and compression, minimum adjustments.&nbsp; In a way , it’s like using pianoteq engine as a white label platform .</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T15:17:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><p>The only limitations in the trial version are that a few notes are disabled and it stops after 20 minutes (but still you can start it again). You can in particular use the VST or AU version in a DAW, as well as record and export midi and audio files. Regarding velocity, this is keyboard dependant, and many users here have provided specific velocity curves, see <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10">https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10</a>. Hope it helps!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Philippe Guillaume]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T13:44:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Yes I do think these need development and I am sure they will listen to the feedback and continue working on them. For me the sounds are great but more options to do small changes is needed. I also believe the VST or AU is required (not available in the full version either at the moment) but there&#039;s a way to actually record the sound, create an external instrument with audio input 3-4 and then, record in an audio track with audio input 3-4 (with no output initially to avoid to listen the two instruments at the same time) and you have the audio recorded with grandartist reading the midi from the external instrument. Hope this helps</p></blockquote></div><p> yes I thought about that and it will work even though it is a workaround<br /> as opposed to a standard functionality.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T13:21:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi all!</p><p>While I am a bit lazy to read their website or this thread fully thru I ask following:</p><p>What does Grandartist provide other than presets? IMO it seems weird that you would give up great PTQ standalone app to host it in other app if that other app does not clearly give much more. On the contrary I read that even velocity curves aren’t there.</p><p>If it’s just (good/excellent/marvellous) presets why don’t they sell just them?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ecaroh]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T10:54:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pianistically wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Yes I do think these need development and I am sure they will listen to the feedback and continue working on them. For me the sounds are great but more options to do small changes is needed. I also believe the VST or AU is required (not available in the full version either at the moment) but there&#039;s a way to actually record the sound, create an external instrument with audio input 3-4 and then, record in an audio track with audio input 3-4 (with no output initially to avoid to listen the two instruments at the same time) and you have the audio recorded with grandartist reading the midi from the external instrument. Hope this helps</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jfornies]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-12T03:14:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grandartist Presets Updated ...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jfornies wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have downloaded the trial version for the Steinway D . I confirm presets are really good BUT&nbsp; in my own opinion there are a few major showstoppers :<br />(1) no velocity curves. You could deal with this one using velocity curve adjustments on your DP but a part VPC1 and maybe a few keyboards , the DP adjustments are very basic . So in theory one would think you could use adjustment with software like Velpro or similar , but it doesn’t work either as grandartist selects all midi inputs and offer no option to select which midi input you want .<br />(2) no VST or AU cannot be used in a DAW and as far as I can see no recording option . I hope this is only for the trial version , otherwise it just a few fundamental flaw<br />(3) no option to save any changes you make to the very little adjustments which come with the software ( maybe a limitation of the trIal version)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pianistically]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-11T12:10:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just my personal opinion after an initial test with the presets that Dick created... simply amazing and made me love Pianoteq again. I&#039;ve been always looking for a good library that I can use before recording in studio and this is giving me real feel of a grand piano. I didn&#039;t check them all but very quickly I found real gems. My communication with Dick was also great, he listened and helped me to find the right sound, can&#039;t recommend enough, I really wish Pianoteq takes some of these presets because they are far better than the ones coming with the library.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jfornies]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-11T02:31:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi guys and gals,</p><p>&nbsp; I tried the free demos a little bit.<br />did not like them much.</p><p>bought the full entire bundle including all presets anyway.</p><p>mindful that this is just my opinion.<br />and I have only checked out a few more presets.<br />and there are a lot of them.</p><p>my opinion is that this is pure gold treasure.<br />it is stupendously amazing good.<br />in the very short amount of time that I have played around with it,<br />I feel like this is one of my favorite things I&#039;ve ever bought.<br />I love presets.<br />and from what I&#039;ve heard so far, this is absolutely phenomenal to the moon.<br />I absolutely freakin love it.<br />I have most of the Pianoteq libraries, and Standard PT 6.</p><p>peace,<br />Charlie</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chasmanian]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-02-27T22:39:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stilli wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got the latest updates from Grandartist and have to say they are fantastic. Many improvements and a much improved interface, these preset libraries for Pianoteq are great sounding and really useable. Those of you that have already tried them are likely to agree on the quality and range from a developer that listens to your suggestions too. There are more options for purchasing either individual instrument or bundled packs too, the updated collections are very welcome here.</p><p><a href="https://grand-artist.com/">https://grand-artist.com/</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>hi,</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; thank you for posting this. it looks very interesting.<br />could you please explain how it works?<br />I do not understand.<br />are there 2 different kinds of libraries?<br />1 for Pianoteq,<br />and the other for the GA app?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-02-27T04:34:54Z</updated>
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