Hehe I remember this also - very good timing for the demo - just enough so you enter into deep thought mode "Oh, wow, I see.. OK, then what else can I do with these controls and this ...", then time out

Yes, also with sound design - it's just endless.. with just a few DAW plugins (for infinity reverbs etc), you can make such incredibly interesting sounds. The physical modeling really helps make texturing backgrounds more "alarmingly" organic in this era, almost as much as synths gave us alarming plasticity (beyond samples, it's more musical, intuitive etc.). While it's of piano DNA, it's also capable of becoming bowed and warm, or cold and stark in all sorts of ways. (trying high 'energy' slider settings to make attack slower can remove some piano heritage and quickly get somewhere towards pad sounds).

Don't overlook the onboard effects, the Amp on low drive settings can introduce a lovely console warmth for modern sounds and there's the usual phase/flange/chorus and tremolo. I often find I don't use as many effects in the DAW for my Pianoteq tracks, when in the past I would feel more necessity to 'cloak' basic synths with a wash of reverbs and filters.. but Pianoteq is just so interesting as an instrument when pushed into obscure sonic territory, it requires less effects, but maybe more musicality (it encourages better playing, which I love, just so playable).

Cheers to you - Enjoy

You can always upgrade to Pro later

Yes agree.

First, access to the spectrum (especially if this like just some repeating of exists 8-bar thing in Standard, which frankly to say not a much impressed me, in sense of timbre transformation). I'm can be calm about this.

Second thing, seemed to me more important: absolutely different notes ability. Well, but again, it's just so to speak "auxiliary" ability, which has no direct relation to timbre design. Or by other words - all this somehow can be reproduce with Standard license. If would be desire hehe.
But ofcourse in Pro this is will be a much more convenient and quick. But (for me) - it's honestly barely worth 150$ extra. (Wait some sales mb)

It's about Pro.

What about:

Oh yeah.
Frankly, couple last weeks i strongly digged into this demo version, in order to convince myself that I do not need this. (I think everyone who is interested in sound design always find a couple options for what can spend $250. And it definitely won't be a piano)
But damn, each time when i had been loaded this in DAW, the 20 demo minutes could gone as 30 seconds. I could hang by hours into some scary deep atonal mechanical emptiness. Therefore, realized that here without variants, unfortunately, it must be .
Btw I has long time AAS stuff too.

The only wish is remains to authors, that they open access to more amount of parameters in future. (I mean, not only piano-structure related).
EDIT: And would be cool to add infinity\freeze feature to built-in reverb.

The manual shows well the 3 ways of working with it. At first glance, you may think you need to edit each note (a lot of work)..

but - you can set 'control notes' say lowest and highest notes, then paint in different shapes for the overtones with the brushes for each - and the rest of the notes in the middle get auto-calculated (interpolated, morphing between the 2).

I like to go adding a click of "random" for each note (takes a minute).. gives a final fuzz of reality.

Lastly, for sound design, it can be very good for replacing synthesizers - I make pads, soundscapes and use heavily treated piano sounds in all sorts of contemporary pieces.. sometimes it's great  to tweak a 'real piano' in a realistic way but if you move sliders to extremes, play around with 2 vs. each other and hearing what this does, you can with little time learn how to make extremely variant sound designs as well as very real pianos of our own making.

Cheers to you.

To me, there's no question that it's the most powerful editing tool in PTQ, but I don't necessarily change that much about it between profiles.  In essence, it is a per-note/per-key graphic equalizer stepped to each overtone of the harmonic series (starting at the 1st overtone and going to up to the 132nd overtone on the lower note--roughly 27Hz-6.1kHz--and from the 1st overtone to the 4th overtone on the highest note--4.2kHz-19.2kHz).  There may be a few vst equalizers or hardware that do something similar: I think they're marketed as "harmonic equalizers" or "overtone exciters" but they won't work on a per-note basis.  This function gives extraordinary control of the sound quality in PTQ, but it's very easy to overuse that control.  If you look at the profiles provided by PTQ in Pro, only about half of the notes have something other than a flat spectrum, and of those nearly all have fewer than four edits most of which are within the 1st-8th overtones and less than +/-6dB: a little change to anything in this window will go a very, very long way!

As more overtones are added, the over sound of a key will muddy and even "beat" and feel higher-pitched than it actually is, while removing overtones generally cleans the sound but loses power and resonance in the process.  Ultimately no overtones becomes an extremely muted sound that better resembles a prepared piano or a plucking a non-speaking duplex string.  Setting the entire profile to 70dB on a single note reminds me of when a string snapped in my upright but didn't fall into the piano body--so you could strike it and hear something but it was a terribly weak, wobbling sound that was only vaguely reminiscent of it's tensioned pitch.

Normally, I reserve use of the per-note spectrum profile to make obvious changes to piano scaling features like the bridge switch or doubly/triply wound strings, since a major change in overtones between two notes will call the player's attention to those features very easily.  I also will "rough" up the spectrum of a few notes just to make each preset feel unique from another--similar to changing the random seed of the Condition slider just to change it.

You can get a pretty good sense of what the Note Edit's profiler will do by altering the main spectrum profile in PTQ Standard (which makes the same 1st-8th overtone spectrum changes for the entire piano compass).  If you like the level of control that Standard feature gives you but you want to really control the sound of each note or piano range (for historical instrument recreation, alternate brand modeling, or personal taste), then the Pro feature will be indispensable--otherwise the Standard feature is rather powerful in its own right.  A good example of "needing" the Pro function is in making pianoteq presets for extended bass range instruments like the Chris Maene Straight Strung, the Boesendorfer Imperial series, or the Stuart & Sons 108-key because they'll have a very different behavior of overtones (stronger, warmer overtones across the lower 1/4 of the keyboard) because of additional sympathetic strings than a regular 88-key instrument.  Another scenario would be emulating older Steinways that have bridge switches, steel bass strings, or bichord/trichord switches in different places along the scaling than their contemporary cousins.  Pianos with tetrachords (like the Borgato 333 Grand Prix) or extended treble range (the Stuart and Sons 108-key) will also have different overtones, but those differences tend to be better emulated (or at least equally-well emulated) with per-note volume changes and full spectrum profile edits for the whole piano compass which are still available to edit in Standard.

Would be cool if someone user of Pro could make short video example with sound.

Or, if some sound design user could tell, this is worthy feature in Pro, or not a mush beneficial.
At least, wanted to be sure that this is can have result a much more than just some kind of EQ.

ab459 wrote:

Gilles wrote:

They are all extended now. You may have to reload the free ones: KIViR.ptq and bells.ptq in the Downloads tab of your user area.

no no, "they" is who ? i talk about demo version (Standard), and some instruments that i see in it.
For example - in "Steinway D" it works, while in "Steinway B" or "Bechstein" (and in many other pianos) left keys stay gray even with enabled "plus" button. That what i mean.

Oh I see. You used the left arrow to access the extended notes of the Steinway D and then loaded the B that is not extended outside the normal range. That's normal. Use the right arrow to realign it (after that it will disappear). The D is a special case, also the K2. If you don't see arrows to the right or left, they are not extended outside the keyboard range. The + or - buttons are for use inside the normal keyboard range for some instruments that have a shorter range.

Oh ok, thanks.

Gilles wrote:

ab459 wrote:

Ok Thanks

Btw, why not in all instruments works trick when you press to "plus" icon, and appear additional yellow keys in keyboard ?
Yes i understand that it's some "unplanned notes" (compare to real instrument) but anyway. At some instruments if enable "plus" some keys stay grey (inactive).
This is not a bug ?

They are all extended now. You may have to reload the free ones: KIViR.ptq and bells.ptq in the Downloads tab of your user area.

no no, "they" is who ? i talk about demo version (Standard), and some instruments that i see in it.
For example - in "Steinway D" it works, while in "Steinway B" or "Bechstein" (and in many other pianos) left keys stay gray even with enabled "plus" button. That what i mean.

Oh I see. You used the left arrow to access the extended notes of the Steinway D and then loaded the B that is not extended outside the normal range. That's normal. Use the right arrow to realign it (after that it will disappear). The D is a special case, also the K2. If you don't see arrows to the right or left, they are not extended outside the keyboard range. The + or - buttons are for use inside the normal keyboard range for some instruments that have a shorter range.

ab459 wrote:

Ok Thanks

Btw, why not in all instruments works trick when you press to "plus" icon, and appear additional yellow keys in keyboard ?
Yes i understand that it's some "unplanned notes" (compare to real instrument) but anyway. At some instruments if enable "plus" some keys stay grey (inactive).
This is not a bug ?

They are all extended now. You may have to reload the free ones: KIViR.ptq and bells.ptq in the Downloads tab of your user area.

no no, "they" is who ? i talk about demo version (Standard), and some instruments that i see in it.
For example - in "Steinway D" it works, while in "Steinway B" or "Bechstein" (and in many other pianos) left keys stay gray even with enabled "plus" button. That what i mean.

Ok Thanks

Btw, why not in all instruments works trick when you press to "plus" icon, and appear additional yellow keys in keyboard ?
Yes i understand that it's some "unplanned notes" (compare to real instrument) but anyway. At some instruments if enable "plus" some keys stay grey (inactive).
This is not a bug ?

They are all extended now. You may have to reload the free ones: KIViR.ptq and bells.ptq in the Downloads tab of your user area.

Btw, why not in all instruments works trick when you press to "plus" icon, and appear additional yellow keys in keyboard ?
Yes i understand that it's some "unplanned notes" (compare to real instrument) but anyway. At some instruments if enable "plus" some keys stay grey (inactive).
This is not a bug ?

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