A laptop with pianoteq:

And:

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;-)

I´m happy that I can use the tablet for it :-)

I put a second hard drive into my laptop and installed a clean Windows XP on it. Now pianoteq runs with the firepod drivers (no ASIO4ALL) without any tuning and has a latency of 4ms. I didn´t try shorter latency, but will do later.

Tomorrow will be my first live usage of it :-)

Thank you all for helping me.

Direct links to the older versions are:

2.6: http://tippach.business.t-online.de/asi...Av2Ins.exe

and

2.7: http://tippach.business.t-online.de/asi...nglish.exe

As found on http://tippach.business.t-online.de/asi...story.html

with delay compensation switched on you get a much more immediate sound (obviously!).

my piano teacher also noticed the delay, as did your friend!

Asus A8V-SE mobo
AMD 64 x 2 dual core running at 2200MHz
2 GB ram
EMU 1820M soundcard

(note that this system is about six years old and is no longer top of the line).

I'm using a buffer size of 320 samples with a latency of 7.3 ms (which doesn't seem too troublesome to me).  This setting is for playing other people's midi files where the polyphony often hits into the 80's or higher and with four microphones.  But I still get some crackles.

If I use two mics, or a binaural setting, I get no crackles at all.

More microphones = more horsepower required = more latency required.

For my own amateur playing, I can use four or five mics with no crackles, or I could set the latency less.  But I usually play with headphones, so I use a binaural setting (which I find gives a very close and immediate sound - which I like).

A comment I've made on other threads is that it's recommended by Niclas Fogwall of Pianoteq to use a multiple of 64 for the buffer size.  Niclas's advice certainly helped me.

Glenn

I really need a better soundcard, I'm using internal Realtek HD audio. Kind of crappy XD

I didn´t mean which values you can choose but which are working properly.

I think it´s a difference if you hear your own instrument or the instrument played by others, because you know the moves of your hand but the sound comes later. I showed pianoteq to a "real pianist", someone who mostly plays on a grand piano. He was amazed by the sound, especially compared with other digital pianos. But he noticed right at the beginning that there was a delay. After he player some minutes on it he stopped thinking about that and could play as he was used to :-)

You have the same "problem" with some church organs where there is a heavy latency. But I think on organs this is well known and you have to accept it, but on a real piano you don´t have these latencies (yes, you have, but very little) and as pianoteq wants to be a replacement for real pianos this is a problem.

So this latency-thing is making you feel not to sit on a real piano, but the sound tries exactly this. I would also like to introduce pianoteq in a band where I play double bass. But the pianist there has to be convinced that it is better than the digital piano sound he uses now. And a feeled delay is something not so nice here.

One solution to this could be Zero Latency Monitoring: The pianist gets the sound of the digital piano into his headphones and the audience gets the pianoteq sound. But this is not optimal.

At the end: What latency values does you pianoteq installation have?

10 ms is fine enough latency.

Of course, 6 or 4 would be better, but consider that you can play decently with even 20 ms or so.

I was having trouble achieving a latency of 4 ms, and asked for help on another forum.  One wise gentleman by the name of Mac replied as follows:

"Suppose you were playing in an acoustic swing band that was typically spread across the stage over a distance of 40 feet (12.2 metres).  Since sound travels at 1,116 fps (340m/s), the instruments on opposite sides of the orchestra would be (40/1,116 = 0.036 seconds) apart from each other.  This would result in a latency of 36 milliseconds between these players.  They seem to be be able to hear each other and keep in time.  10 milliseconds shouldn't be a problem."

He's right of course.  You may be able to detect it, but I've tried it, and I very quickly became accustomed to it at the keyboard.

Glenn

Of course, 6 or 4 would be better, but consider that you can play decently with even 20 ms or so.

If not, do that first.

Then, if you still have clicking noises, I suggest that you adjust the internal sample rate in the performance section of the options in pianoteq.

Adjusting the above settings has enabled me to run pianoteq flawlessly while running the internet with windows messenger and playing pianoteq live over messenger!

I have the same prossessor as you and it should work for you also.