Modartt user forum - volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:30:45 +0000

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttings.fxp

sigcarunchio, I hope you find this .fxp helpful for your CP33. Set the touch sensitivity to hard.

p.s. he reverb is set to concert audience prest - you may want to change that!

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (skip) — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:23:11 +0000

sigasa wrote:

Thank you for the correction Greg. I guess the preset sounds more like a Steinway then?!
Chris

You're welcome. I'm really not sure whether it sounds more like a Steinway or not - I'm just not experienced enough. Andreas' Bosendorfer might be a bit closer to the Bosendorfer sound that I know though.

Greg.

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:10:21 +0000

skip wrote:

sigasa wrote:
I understand that the C3 pianoteq model is largely based on a bosendorfer?
No - it's modelled on a Steinway:
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...3625#p3625
Greg.

Thank you for the correction Greg. I guess the preset sounds more like a Steinway then?!

Chris

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (skip) — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:43:08 +0000

sigasa wrote:

I understand that the C3 pianoteq model is largely based on a bosendorfer?

No - it's modelled on a Steinway:
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...3625#p3625

Greg.

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:50:19 +0000

Here's an attempt at a Bosendorfer?

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttempt.mp3

here's the .fxp

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...orfer_.fxp

I understand that the C3 pianoteq model is largely based on a bosendorfer? I merged my last CP33 settings .fxp (files section) with the 1st variation of the C3 solo recording preset. Therefore, you may have to tweak velocity curve, dynamics etc. to produce the same sound when you play as that of the above mp3.

Opinions welcome

Opinions are like onions - sometimes they make you cry!

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:30:22 +0000

Much improved colour and tonal range in this .fxp

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...namics.fxp

comments welcome

Chris

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:22:08 +0000

Thanks Jake.

Yeah, I appreciate what you say about lack of colour and tonal nuances in sampled pianos!

here's a more listener friendly version using adapted close mic preset

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttings.fxp

and the accompanying demo

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttings.mp3

Chris

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (Jake Johnson) — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:51:45 +0000

Sounds really good, Sigasa. I don't have this keyboard, but I love the way that PianoTeq can be adjusted to the velocity curves and quirks of any keyboard. Much better than in sampled pianos, where there is often a disconnection between the timbre and the velocity.

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:39:56 +0000

a demo of the following .fxp

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...cturne.mp3

.fxp

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ttings.fxp

This preset is best played at the keyboard through your speakers (as is the mp3 demo)

Please advise where improvements could be made

Chris

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:50:03 +0000

hi guys

apologies for my brief departure. I will post .fxp's that work this time! Please be patient as I have a lot on at the moment!

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (Graham) — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:14:14 +0000

I have his revison 6 and final version , I remember he did 2 'final' versions, I am not sure which one I have, but anyway.. I would try to upload them but they don't work with 3.5.2, I looked in the fxp code and it seems you need 3.5.3 beta, maybe sigasa got banned for posting fxp from a top secret version :)

btw I don't have a CP33 (but am considering it) I was just curious as to what he changed

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigcarunchio) — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:45:18 +0000

Sigasa?!?!? Are you ok?
In alternative I ask to forum Admin if it's possible to recover fpx posted by Sigasa, called somethings like "CP33....fxp"
Thanks

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigcarunchio) — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:37:13 +0000

Hi sigasa, I think something happen to the forum, last post and uploaded files deleted.
Could you repost your last setting?
Thank a lot

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sigasa) — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:57:55 +0000

sawtooth wrote:

Not entirely related to the Yamaha I suppose but I have noticed that with my Roland FP7 the midi range when on default settings is pretty much 0-100 and not 0-127.
Kind of annoying losing out on 27 whole velocity levels. I can set the keyboard to a lighter mode but then hitting softer levels becomes tricky.

All I've been doing is adjusting is the dynamics and creating a custom velocity curve. In revision 3 I turned the limiter off, that's all!

As a starter, turn of the limiter. Then play some octaves very load on your keyboard in order to see what the highest velocity you an achieve is. Once you've done that, drag the top right hand corner control point along the top till you reach that velocity. you have now set the top of your curve.

Next, play your keyboard for a bit while experimenting with the dynamics slider. When you find a point on the dynamics slider that sounds good with the velocity curve you've just started to create, play some more to see if you can get really soft and really loud.

Let me know how you get on sawtooth and I'll see if I can help some more,

Chris

Re: volume and presence: loaded midi vs produced

null@example.com (sawtooth) — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:27:02 +0000

Not entirely related to the Yamaha I suppose but I have noticed that with my Roland FP7 the midi range when on default settings is pretty much 0-100 and not 0-127.

Kind of annoying losing out on 27 whole velocity levels. I can set the keyboard to a lighter mode but then hitting softer levels becomes tricky.