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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: which keyboards are recommended for use with pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mcoll wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I haven&#039;t seen any recommendations for the Korg D1 - it must be the cheapest price you can pay for getting a top-tier action. <br />For the same money as a Roland FP30 you get the same action as in the Korg Kronos 88 (a 3000 euros workstation/stage piano). I have tried it and liked it. <br />The only thing to mention is that the grading is in 4 zones if I&#039;m not mistaken (as opposed to 7 zones in the Roland FP90 for instance, to which this action compares well), but I didn&#039;t perceive it and it didn&#039;t bother me while playing.</p></blockquote></div><p>I am using the KORG D1 with Pianoteq Pro thru a Steinberg UR22C which runs the whole thing with no audible latency - everything is just perfect! I am exceedingly happy with this set up.<br />This keybed is absolutely fantastic, highly recommended. Not sure you can get anything better for the buck.<br />........ . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp;.&nbsp; &nbsp;.&nbsp; &nbsp;.&nbsp; &nbsp;.<br />Except one thing :-(<br />I get a glitch now and then from my laptop, a Dell XPS 15 i7 - 7700.<br />I tried to deactivate the acpi and a lot of other things as recommended by people that seem to have solved the glitch issues. At no avail. Ultimately I will have to use the Latencymon some time soon to find the mysterious culprit!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tomaziu]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Another vote for Kawai MP11SE - it is quite an excellent action, and the best (IMHO) in its price range.</p><p>Osho</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-03-25T01:34:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Kawai MP11SE... although I&#039;m considering an upgrade to a Kawai CA99 (the only thing making me hesitate is that I want to be able to pick up and go if needs be.)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-03-18T07:40:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: which keyboards are recommended for use with pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t seen any recommendations for the Korg D1 - it must be the cheapest price you can pay for getting a top-tier action. <br />For the same money as a Roland FP30 you get the same action as in the Korg Kronos 88 (a 3000 euros workstation/stage piano). I have tried it and liked it. <br />The only thing to mention is that the grading is in 4 zones if I&#039;m not mistaken (as opposed to 7 zones in the Roland FP90 for instance, to which this action compares well), but I didn&#039;t perceive it and it didn&#039;t bother me while playing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mcoll]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-12-14T06:31:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Someone was asking about the Nord,</p><p>I bought the Nord Piano 3.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t play well with Pianoteq.&nbsp; Let me quickly summarize:</p><p>1) their fancy 3 sensor velocity calibration does not apply to MIDI out, only their internal patches.&nbsp; So the sound is uneven and you really have to mess with Pianoteq to get a curve that works.</p><p>2) None of the MIDI controls on the unit pass through. You cant Transpose, for example, or octave shift, or split or anything like that.&nbsp; The only thing that goes by MIDI is the note and the Sustain pedal.&nbsp; </p><p>3) They keys are noisy. Really noisy. My neighbor complained and pounded just from the flutter sound! Man.. after paying that kind of cash you don&#039;t want that to happen to you.</p><p>So buyer beware an read carefully.. Nord sells a super high end version of the 3 for over 3k that apparently does pass midi control, but look at that value added price.. Yuck.</p><p>I&#039;m giving the Nord Piano 3 to my dad and picking up the Kawai VPC1.. Quiet keys, software that I can transpose with, and $1000 cheaper.</p><p>Hope that helps somebody.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBard]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-09-28T22:07:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: which keyboards are recommended for use with pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Pianoteq&#039;s Keyboard calibration assistant for example looks nice on paper, but I can&#039;t get adequate results with it. As if something important is forgotten in that algorithm.&quot;</p><p>same impression for me, I only use&nbsp; the dedicated curve of the&nbsp; VPC1 and the &quot;normal keyboard&quot; and &quot;moderately fast keyboard&quot; in the pianoteq presets</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bernard]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-11T15:42:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nsalzman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[...] customizable velocity curves (the numa can create &#039;self-adjusting&#039; presets based on sampling your actual style of play).</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting, could you please write a few words, how it works?<br />Does it produce satisfying results?<br />Pianoteq&#039;s <em>Keyboard calibration assistant</em> for example looks nice on paper, but I can&#039;t get adequate results with it. As if something important is forgotten in that algorithm.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2019-02-11T12:04:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting question. My keyboards have dual-use: a focus on piano sounds and technique - and as midi-input devices amongst the mix with Ableton Push 2, Roli Seaboard block, etc. </p><p>Main midi keyboards are a circa 1991 Peavey DPM C8, and a 2000&#039;s Studiologic Numa white. Both are 88 key, with global aftertouch, and customizable velocity curves (the numa can create &#039;self-adjusting&#039; presets based on sampling your actual style of play). I have an Axiom 25 for synth and organ (and to provide pitch and mod wheels for a numa white)...</p><p>I don&#039;t own a midi controller that actually generates sound. Pianoteq continues to be my goto piano sound, even though I have Steinberg&#039;s &#039;The Grand 3&#039;, and other in-the-box sampled instruments. In the synth world, for perspective - Pianoteq competes with my Prophet 12 module, and Waldorf Streichfett... august company, and it holds up nicely!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nsalzman]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-10T18:58:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Kawai mp11 (now mp11se) is very very good, for me its strong point is the longer black keys. It is very expensive, I wish there were just a controller with the same action (since I don&#039;t use any of all the functions it has).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[marcos daniel]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-10T05:13:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A used Fp50 or P155 would be ok; both are bullet proof, have a decent feel to the keys and also have line outs which you can channel into the stereo amp/speakers you may wish to use.&nbsp; Better than using the headphone output, imo.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2019-02-08T22:17:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your response and advice, very helpful.</p><p>There seem to be many options and decent keyboards around, everybody has his own favourite.</p><p>How about Nord keyboards that many pop-music and jazz players use?</p><p>And about used, second-hand (cheaper) options that are still worth considering and durable?</p><p>Technically, are there different types of MIDI or is it all the same?</p><p>Thanks again, best wishes Michiel</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MichielOckeloen]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-04T22:20:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Certainly check out the Casio CDP-130. Great feeling action</p><p>Am considering buying one myself till I can afford the Casio GP500</p><p>Warmest Regards,</p><p>Chris</p><p>P.s.</p><p>I&#039;ve tried many, many different actions and for the money the CDP action is the best and it also integrates well with Pianoteq</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sigasa]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-02T23:04:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can vouch for the Roland FP30: good quality action and not too heavy if you need it to be portable. Well worth considering if you also have an acoustic piano and limited space.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-01T13:02:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For budget Pianos: Roland FP30 or FP10, Kawai ES110, Yamaha P125, Casio PX160 (recent newer models as well).</p><p>My personal preference is for the action on the FP30, which I own. The Yamaha is notable because it supports both MIDI and Audio over USB.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Groove On]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-01T03:36:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I use Pianoteq for everyday piano practice/pleasure.</p><p>I purchased a Casio AP-270 (budget piano) with hifi speakers on top of it (Focal chorus 706), both connected to an old computer and hifi amplifier.<br />Adding the cost of Pianoteq and audio cables I paid just about 1000€ (I had the computer and the hifi amp already) and I&#039;m really happy with the result.</p><p>In my experience, adjusting Pianoteq&#039;s velocity curve and dynamics slider had a huge influence on the realism of the playing experience.<br />I would advise to spend a lot of time tweaking Pianoteq to fit your piano and speakers perfectly, and do the same thing for your students.</p><p>The quality of the sound is also a big factor. Not many budget digital pianos have an &quot;aux in&quot; input to receive audio from the computer and most of them do not have good speakers anyway. Good external speakers and/or good headphones can help a lot to provide a realistic response to your playing.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2019-02-01T01:31:13Z</updated>
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