Thanks so much for sharing !
You're welcome. Can be imported and used in standalone Pianoteq as well, DAW not needed.
]]>Pianistically wrote:... I wish pianoteq includes their own impulse reverb files recorded in the most renowned studio such as Abbey Road and Teldex Berlin .
Import and try these Pori, Finland concert hall impulse-response reverbs inside Pianoteq:
http://legacy.spa.aalto.fi/projects/poririrs/
Thanks so much for sharing !
]]>... I wish pianoteq includes their own impulse reverb files recorded in the most renowned studio such as Abbey Road and Teldex Berlin .
Import into Pianoteq (including standalone, DAW unnecessary) and test these meticulously produced Pori, Finland concert hall impulse-response reverbs:
http://legacy.spa.aalto.fi/projects/poririrs/
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]]>What pianos would you like Modartt to model? Yamaha, Fazioli, Mason & Hamlin, the Bösendorfer from the other thread?
(technical side note, if Modartt only models one Fazioli - shouldn’t it be called a Faziolo?)
M&H & Fazioli for me . Also I wish pianoteq includes their own impulse reverb files recorded in the most renowned studio such as Abbey Road and Teldex Berlin . Of course, you could acquire additional plugins and play pianoteq within a daw and it is not Moddart’s core business but I think that would give pianoteq an edge . One of the reasons Garritan CFX was very popular is related to the fact that ambient mics captured abbey road studio 1 reverb .
]]>In fact, I'm increasingly starting to feel that perhaps Pianoteq should move away from modelling real-life pianos such as the Steinway D and concentrate instead on developing its own virtual piano models.
The reason I'm suggesting this is because the K2 has become by far my favourite Pianoteq model. I've increased string length to 274 cm, slightly adapted some settings for the K2 Warm preset, and use Cinematic Rooms Pro as an external reverb (a slightly adapted version of the 'Rear Stage' preset).
The result is, to my ears, a wonderful, immersive and supremely playable piano sound, especially for classical music -- the best I've been able to coax from a virtual piano so far (including all of the sampled pianos I've tried). It also sounds in some ways more like a Steinway D4 to me than the actual Pianoteq model D. I use the K2 every day to practise, play and record a range of classical music, from Mozart and Schubert to Carl Vine and Takemitsu.
As Modartt explain on their website, the K2 "is not based on any specific model but created from scratch by the Modartt virtual piano factory, combining the best elements of several source pianos." As far as I'm concerned, this might be the best Pianoteq strategy for the future. It might also do the most justice to what Pianoteq is about: creating a convincing physically modelled virtual piano. Ultimately, the question of whether or not Pianoteq 'nails' the Steinway (or Bluthner or whatever) sound may not matter so much. What's much more important, in my view, is whether it offers a virtual instrument that feels and sounds real on its own pianistic terms.
If this means abandoning the 'painstakingly modelled real-world piano X' approach (and my experiences with the K2 suggest that this might indeed be the case), so be it. Perhaps the real strengths of Pianoteq lie in its ability to create a virtual piano that is its own thing -- a bit like building an entirely new real-world piano.
Needless to say, I'm writing all of this as a long-time devoted Pianoteq user who has nothing but admiration for the Modartt team. I'd be interested to see what other people think.
]]>It is hard to describe what I miss. I don't think they are sharp, but I miss this sparkle in the sound. This soft kind of sparkle and attack. And I miss details in the sound. Kind of a 3D Model where the surface doesn't have a lot of details. I miss some ringing of the strings etc. Really hard to describe...
I know what you mean. The real Steinway D has a sparkle and clear but not overly bright sound. The one in Pianoteq tends to be brittle particularly in the upper end as if the piano is located in a room with a lot of hard surfaces with little resonance to go along with the tone.
A 3d model is a good description. The model is okay but the texturing lacks the normal map to give it any textures, so the model looks like the basic 3d model textured in the old Phong texture.
]]>BarbaraRB wrote:Gaston wrote:There is no Yamaha U4, only U1 and U3.
From the picture in the GUI, the Pianoteq U4 looks very much like the Yamaha U3.
Thus by choosing this number Modartt does not risk to be suspected of plagiarism(I own a U1 since 40 years)
Thank you for the clarification. I didn't know that there is no U4. Very clever way to avoid violating trademark restrictions! I wish PTQ would do this with Bosendorfer, Fazioli, etc.
I wonder why there's no U2 piano. Maybe they don't fancy dealing with a lawsuit from Bono!
Hi, I found out from internet that there is/was an U2 piano. "From Hamamatsu Japan, the U2 is an upright built in 1971. The Yamaha U2 was discontinued by Yamaha in the 1980s but it was built to the same high standards as the hugely popular Yamaha U1 and U3 pianos"
All the best, everyone
Stig
]]>Je veux un Steinway comme celui-là !
Impressive architecture and a revolting sight!
What a blight on the landscape!
EDIT: Maybe my gut reaction to that giant stick in the landscape was a tad inappropriate for the thread. Sorry Gaston.
]]>https://themindcircle.com/111-west-57th...h40b4FaBcw
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_West_57th_Street
We can see that the people at Steinway have had their say :
Pour éviter qu'elle se balance au gré du vent, un amortisseur harmonique de 800 tonnes se trouve dans le haut du gratte-ciel. Il est constitué par deux grosses masses de plaques d’acier. L'une est suspendue au plafond par une série de câbles. L’autre est fixée au plancher par des vérins hydrauliques.
To prevent it from swaying in the wind, an 800 ton harmonic damper is located at the top of the skyscraper. It consists of two large masses of steel plates. One is suspended from the ceiling by a series of cables. The other is fixed to the floor by hydraulic jacks.
]]>Olivier W wrote:Hi,
Hi want that they model the same Steinway sound than VSL Synchron Stage D-274 (Condenser+ribbon mics and VSL velocity fix -20)
don't like the Pianoteq Steinway D HB or NY
Only the Steinway B, begin to sound like a Steinway. (not bad in Pianoteq 8 with Steinway B improv. preset)
Regards,
Olivier F.
The Steinway D's in Pianoteq are also my least favorite ones after the YC5... though the Steinway B I like very much But the Steinway D's I heard in the Philharmonic here and in Hamburg are great instruments and we have one at a small local Jazz Club and it is phenomenal. So for me there is something not quite right with the Pianoteq Sound ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
The B model has a darker sound
Do you find the D presets too sharp sounding?
Hi,
Hi want that they model the same Steinway sound than VSL Synchron Stage D-274 (Condenser+ribbon mics and VSL velocity fix -20)
don't like the Pianoteq Steinway D HB or NY
Only the Steinway B, begin to sound like a Steinway. (not bad in Pianoteq 8 with Steinway B improv. preset)
Regards,
Olivier F.
The Steinway D's in Pianoteq are also my least favorite ones after the YC5... though the Steinway B I like very much But the Steinway D's I heard in the Philharmonic here and in Hamburg are great instruments and we have one at a small local Jazz Club and it is phenomenal. So for me there is something not quite right with the Pianoteq Sound ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
]]>Olivier W wrote:Hi,
Hi want that they model the same Steinway sound than VSL Synchron Stage D-274 (Condenser+ribbon mics and VSL velocity fix -20)
don't like the Pianoteq Steinway D HB or NY
Only the Steinway B, begin to sound like a Steinway. (not bad in Pianoteq 8 with Steinway B improv. preset)
Regards,
Olivier F.
So why don't you use the VSL Synchron Stage D-274?
He did in his hybrid recording:
https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=10252
Personally I prefer the sound of Pianoteq on its own, or the VSL Synchron on its own.
Still an interesting combination. Thanks to Oliver for sharing.
]]>Hi,
Hi want that they model the same Steinway sound than VSL Synchron Stage D-274 (Condenser+ribbon mics and VSL velocity fix -20)
don't like the Pianoteq Steinway D HB or NY
Only the Steinway B, begin to sound like a Steinway. (not bad in Pianoteq 8 with Steinway B improv. preset)
Regards,
Olivier F.
So why don't you use the VSL Synchron Stage D-274?
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