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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong><span class="bbu">MORE VELOCITY CURVE TESTS...</span></strong></p><p>What follows is a sight-read Waltz snippet by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woldemar_Bargiel"><strong>Woldemar Bargiel</strong></a> using <a href="https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mrubinst/tuning/tuning.html">Thomas Young&#039;s 1799 Unequal Temperament</a> and a Diapason setting of 432 Hz.</p><br /><p><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Bargiel%20Walzer%20Op%2032%20No%208.mp3"><strong>Woldemar Bargiel (1828-1897)</strong> Walzer Op 32, No 8</a></p><br /><p>There&#039;s such a debate on the use of unequal temperament, thought I&#039;d try another from <a href="http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/">Scala</a>. You don&#039;t have to know the programme or even how to use it to use the temperaments you can download a zip file from the site with c5000 temperaments in .scl pianoteq-ready format!</p><p>Here&#039;s the Velocity Curve (p120)<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Velocity = [0, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 21, 23, 25, 27, 30, 32, 34, 37, 39, 41, 44, 46, 48, 51, 53, 55, 58, 60, 62, 64, 67, 69, 71, 74, 76, 78, 81, 83, 85, 88, 90, 92, 95, 97, 99, 101, 104, 106, 108, 111, 113, 127; 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 21, 24, 26, 30, 33, 37, 41, 46, 50, 55, 61, 66, 71, 76, 82, 87, 91, 96, 100, 104, 107, 110, 113, 115, 117, 119, 121, 122, 124, 125, 126, 126, 127, 127]</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2021 22:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>A different <strong>Velocity Curve</strong> and setting for the fabulous <strong>Neupert Clavichord lute</strong> and sample below...</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v5rdfcuchhzqc1/CreateCurve06.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v5rdfcuchhzqc1/CreateCurve06.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v5rdfcuchhzqc1/CreateCurve06.png?raw=1"/></span></p><br /><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO SAMPLE</span><br /><strong>Clavier Partie I &amp; III - Johann N. Tischer</strong><br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/download.php?id=4376">https://forum.modartt.com/download.php?id=4376</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Using the same curve as above for <strong>Neupert Clavichord lute</strong> with limited dynamics,but this time with a change to the Temperament (see image below) and second Handel sample audio below.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9i3e4rswcpe4n5/CreateCurve05.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9i3e4rswcpe4n5/CreateCurve05.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9i3e4rswcpe4n5/CreateCurve05.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO SAMPLE</span><br /><strong>Handel&#039;s Variation I from Air and Variations in Bb</strong><br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Air%20in%20Bb%20-%20Var%201.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...ar%201.mp3</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 10:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a curve for the <strong>Neupert Clavichord lute</strong>. It has limited dynamics as you can hear from the sample audio below.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/23vlgdm9q00m5bn/CreateCurve04.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/23vlgdm9q00m5bn/CreateCurve04.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/23vlgdm9q00m5bn/CreateCurve04.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">VELOCITY CURVE</span><br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Global Velocity = [0, 0, 4, 9, 13, 17, 21, 26, 30, 34, 39, 43, 47, 51, 56, 60, 64, 69, 73, 77, 81, 86, 90, 127; 0, 0, 3, 7, 11, 16, 21, 26, 31, 36, 42, 47, 53, 59, 65, 71, 77, 83, 89, 96, 102, 108, 115, 115]</code></pre></div><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO SAMPLE</span><br /><strong>Handel&#039;s Prelude from Suite XIV in G</strong><br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Prelude%20Suite%20XIV.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...%20XIV.mp3</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 09:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>..and just for the fun of it, one more for the p120.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs1kiep0blk7z2l/U4_Small_Schumann_03.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs1kiep0blk7z2l/U4_Small_Schumann_03.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs1kiep0blk7z2l/U4_Small_Schumann_03.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO</span><br /></p><ol class="decimal"><li><p>Knecht Ruprecht<br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Knecht%20Ruprecht.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...precht.mp3</a><br /> </p></li></ol>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>..and there&#039;s more for the p120.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3ctjv2o86wffyv/U4_Small_Schumann_02.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3ctjv2o86wffyv/U4_Small_Schumann_02.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3ctjv2o86wffyv/U4_Small_Schumann_02.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO</span><br /></p><ol class="decimal"><li><p>Von fremden Ländern und Menschen<br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Von%20fremden%20L%20ndern%20und%20Menschen.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...nschen.mp3</a><br /> </p></li></ol>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 21:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>..as I was saying, &quot;I intend to have thousands of curves...&quot;</p><p>Here&#039;s a quick play at changing the <strong>U4 Small</strong> preset to better suit my peculiar playing style on the p120.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/jomafomoswkt0o7/U4_Small_Schumann_01.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/jomafomoswkt0o7/U4_Small_Schumann_01.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/jomafomoswkt0o7/U4_Small_Schumann_01.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">AUDIO</span><br /></p><ol class="decimal"><li><p>Soldatenmarsch<br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Soldatenmarsch.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...marsch.mp3</a><br /> </p></li><li><p>Trällerliedchen<br /><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Tr%20llerliedchen.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...edchen.mp3</a><br /> </p></li></ol><p><span class="bbu">MIDI</span><br /></p><ol class="decimal"><li><p>Soldatenmarsch: <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Soldatenmarsch.mid">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...marsch.mid</a></p></li><li><p>Trällerliedchen: <a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Tr%20llerliedchen.mid">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...edchen.mid</a></p></li></ol>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 09:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well,</p><p>now that I&#039;ve taken the plunge and bought PianoTeq7... I&#039;m having a serious look at an optimal <strong>Velocity Curve</strong> for the p120. And I conclude there is no such thing. </p><p><span class="bbu">But there&#039;s more...</span></p><p>I initially thought that the p120 didn&#039;t transmit all note-on velocity data, but I was wrong; a close look at the midi inspector in PianoTeq reveals that it does. So, &quot;what&#039;s the point of a <em>velocity curve</em> then,&quot; I asked myself.</p><p>To answer that question I, created an Excel spreadsheet that will draw an exponential line between two points and I can change the curve and just fed this into PianoTeq and played with the <strong>Erard Player</strong> piano to see what it did for my playing. I soon discovered that I could improve the dynamics of my playing by using various curves. And this, of course is only part of the picture, as PianoTeq offers control within the programme for a plethora of adjustments.</p><p><span class="bbu">In conclusion...</span></p><p>Here&#039;s a refined curve for you to play with if you have the p120 and would like to experiment with the <strong>1922 Erard Player</strong> yourself and see if you get the same satisfaction I did with it - but that brings me to the point that there&#039;s no such thing as an optimal velocity curve as each piece is different and demands something different from the &#039;pianist&#039;, the effect any given velocity curve will bring to your performance will vary according to your unique playing technique and your mood on a given day. There are simply too many variables to be able to say, this is the curve for you! I intend to have thousands of curves, for thousands of hours of fun with PianoTeq.</p><p>And to get you started, here&#039;s just one of them...</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ljprft2el6xpq2/Erard%20Player.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ljprft2el6xpq2/Erard%20Player.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ljprft2el6xpq2/Erard%20Player.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5g3yst8nt2zyvt/Erard%20Player.mp3?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5g3yst8nt2zy...r.mp3?dl=0</a> (Bad performance snippets of Handel, Chopin and Mendelssohn)</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Global Velocity = [0, 4, 9, 14, 19, 24, 29, 34, 39, 44, 49, 54, 58, 63, 68, 73, 78, 83, 88, 93, 98, 103, 108, 127; 4, 4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 16, 19, 24, 28, 34, 39, 45, 51, 58, 65, 73, 80, 88, 97, 106, 115, 125, 125]</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2021 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#039;m very late to this party...</p><p>I have this keyboard as well as the p515 and am in the process of thinking if I&#039;d like to buy PianoTeq7 Standard and which piano libraries would best suit me...</p><p>Here is a sample comparison of my <strong>p120</strong> and the <strong>NY Steinway Model D</strong> setting:</p><ol class="decimal"><li><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bk672f29tcrt21x/COMP01-Yam_P120.mp3?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/bk672f29tcrt2...0.mp3?dl=0</a> (Yamaha p120)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/am690v6kwj0oit2/COMP01-NY_Steinway_Mod_D.mp3?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/am690v6kwj0oi...D.mp3?dl=0</a> (PTeq NY Steinway Model D)</p></li></ol><p>..and here are images of the Velocity and Pedal curves I&#039;ve created</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkrxs4tffnmcw7q/COMP01a.png?raw=1" alt="Velocity" title="Velocity"/></span> <span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/scddus1qbsdao8i/COMP01b.png?raw=1" alt="https://www.dropbox.com/s/scddus1qbsdao8i/COMP01b.png?raw=1" title="https://www.dropbox.com/s/scddus1qbsdao8i/COMP01b.png?raw=1"/></span></p><p><span class="bbu">METHOD USED</span></p><p>I recorded the piano directly whilst I used PianoTeq7 to record the MIDI and then exported the audio using my curves and the NY Steinway Model D &#039;patch&#039; for the comparison. I may well have to tweek it, as aurally the two sound not too dissimilar - but visually they are quite different. This could be that the p120 does not output velocities above 100 as far as I can tell, but I&#039;m not expert...</p><p>Hope this is of interest.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2021 13:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Yamaha P-120]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p><p>I am a proud pianoteq standard user for about a month now and I&#039;m struggling to get the velocity curve right. I&#039;ve made a few curves using the calibration feature but doesn&#039;t get it where I want. It seems like I need to have different velocity sensitivities in different registers, but I guess I would have to get the pro version for that. I know that the P-120 isn&#039;t cutting edge technology but I like it and I think the keybed works good with the internal sounds. So my question is if anyone of you have a good velocity curve for the Yamaha P-120 (the model isn&#039;t listed under the velocity curves tab) or any advice for me to create such a curve?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 07:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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