What analysis program is this screenshot from?

I'd also like to know. In recent years (as KVR member) I would have known, but am way behind new programs now. If we won't get an answer, I'll mail the picture to a mate studying at a pop-school university. But surely we'll get an answer^^.

Here's a pic from my analyzer to evidence this. The overtone is at 1676 Hz and is red in the graph for unusually long. There's no issue with neighbouring notes. Unfortunately I only have stage version.

Stephen_Doonan wrote:

Costis wrote:

A minor gripe:  Using Recording 2 preset I get an unpleasant resonance when playing Gb2 with sustain pedal down at high velocities (both headphones and monitor speakers). Maybe it could be adjusted in future releases?

For some reason I don't notice a strong difference between the Gb2 (the third Gb moving upward from the bottom of an 88-note keyboard, with or without sustain pedal) and the surrounding notes or contrast in transitions among them. They seem fairly well balanced or graded in sound to me. If you have Pianoteq 6 Pro, you might try adjusting the spectrum profile for that particular note in Note Edit (the first overtone of Gb2 (which I'm guessing is the fundamental frequency of the note) and the second overtone are both adjusted downward (as are most of the notes near Gb2 or in the bass range).

What analysis program is this screenshot from?

Beto-Music wrote:

I think I found a weird paradox, as strong as in some Sci Fi TV series.

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The point is, or was back then, that I mind's ear had a hard time distinguishing this disgusting little piano module from the real thing!!! 

Cheers,

Joe

A very late addition to that . My great grandmother, who often went to see live concerts and had an own Bechstein grand (until the Nazis took it from her) got, every 2 or 4 weeks around 1925 it must have been, a funny "apparatus". They brought it into the house and it contained 4 headphones from that time. It was - so I was told - meant to broadcast an opera from a major city. They sat there, listened to an opera, and after 5 minutes they were simply happy and felt exactly like they did when sitting in a real concert hall. I always liked that story.

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What about ask hin to transcript the boogie using pianoteq and play with a guest in his TV program ?
:-)

Are you seriously ?
Saying a respectable piano manufacturer would use a MIDI like, WMP MDI databank, to create a video presentation of the company. Petrof founder would roll in his grave. I wouldn't even dare to send them a email asking it.

Well "fortunately" I'm a little crazier than you are and I asked them. :-)

Actually I asked them if they could identify the piece, the player(s) and the pianos used on that boogie woogie piece by email a few days ago.

Unfortunately they no longer have that information as it's an old video and people have moved on.  This was their reply :

And as always a big thank you to European businesses who are willing and able to communicate with me in English because I'm not able to communicate with them in their native language.

So no joy.

We probably need a boogie woogie expert.  Anyone know Jools Holland's email address ? :-)

Hopefully, we see more PTQ models in the coming year with that 50% off discount! Got the Steingraeber/U4 and the Petrof/YC5 combinations, which leaves the Kremesegg 1 & 2, Harpsichord and Harp still on my wish list!

For me it sounded always like a heavy hand performance of two boogie pianists playing a upright. A "heavy hand" style, often for many fast enthusiastically boogies, can sound giving a idea somewhat poor in velocity and harsh for metalic tones.

If I remamber well someone years ago told the name of this music or the name of the performes, but I forgot take note. ANyway I couldn't find, at the time, if the information was correct.

A minor gripe:  Using Recording 2 preset I get an unpleasant resonance when playing Gb2 with sustain pedal down at high velocities (both headphones and monitor speakers). Maybe it could be adjusted in future releases?

For some reason I don't notice a strong difference between the Gb2 (the third Gb moving upward from the bottom of an 88-note keyboard, with or without sustain pedal) and the surrounding notes or contrast in transitions among them. They seem fairly well balanced or graded in sound to me. If you have Pianoteq 6 Pro, you might try adjusting the spectrum profile for that particular note in Note Edit (the first overtone of Gb2 (which I'm guessing is the fundamental frequency of the note) and the second overtone are both adjusted downward (as are most of the notes near Gb2 or in the bass range).

If someone in this forum is very good on take music by ear, and skilled playing boogie woogie, would be just great to have such pianoteq Petrof performance.

Upon listening to this boogie woogie sound track, I have two concerns:

1) It sounds like a three-handed midi file rather than something played live -- three-handed parts consist of bass line played in somewhat low octaves; plus right hand chords played in the vicinity of Middle C, and then the jazzy top line is played about 2 octaves higher.  Moreover, there is zero variation in tempo, and it sounds as though most (if not all) note-on velocities are fixed at a value of approximately 80.

2)  Unless I am very mistaken, this "piano" does NOT sound like a Petrof piano  (real-, sampled-, modeled- or otherwise) was used in this demo.  Rather, it sounds to me as though someone grafted a midi sound track onto this video.

Even if I or someone else were to mimic this soundtrack, Pianoteq's Petrof piano would NOT match what is heard here.

Sorry, but don't shoot the messenger ....

Joe

Anyway, a music I think really should be on pianoteq demos page it's this real cool one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf8TJBfy6Ao

If someone in this forum is very good on take music by ear, and skilled playing boogie woogie, would be just great to have such pianoteq Petrof performance.

Thanks for posting.

A minor gripe:  Using Recording 2 preset I get an unpleasant resonance when playing Gb2 with sustain pedal down at high velocities (both headphones and monitor speakers). Maybe it could be adjusted in future releases?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2-WPUr6P8

:-)

Interesting, this is the first time Modartt had the chance to analyze a grand piano using a anechoic chamber.

And looks like a "robot" arm was used hit the Petrof piano keys with exactly measurable velocity.

I wonder if would be possible to build a portable (somewhat...) anechoic chamber, to help sample/analyse pianos not allowed to be transported usually, like old pianos in museums. It could be like mount/assemble a geodesic dome, and with holes/plugs to fit the pyramidal sound absorbers. An anechoic dome.

I thought IPS could be a hope, but when I tested one I found it almost as bad as LCD-LED backlight monitors. The IPS also change the light in angles, even if not much, but changes in a more homogen form, but get darker and fadded, and this anoys me. And if look by very close view, like in 55 inch screen TVs, it also appear brighter in the center.  And it have also motion blur, killing details in motion, plus the video compression killing detrails too. Poor dynamic range prone to white clipping and black crushing(I have deep aversion for both).

Honestly, I can't watch, for entertainment, digital format films on digital TV. Some people call me crazy, but I can't, cause I notice, every single lie this industry push. They said that have perfect digital images, but it's a crap, in some ways worse than analogic system. It kill details a lot, if creates artifacts, micro and macro blocking, banding (no decent gradient anymore on TVs). Some sat system here, use so much compression, have a so miserable bitrate for HD, than it got as bad as VHS in some scenes for some chanels. MGM Gold HD, presenting Mad Max (remake) in HD, during action scenes, was pure artifacts, less details than VHS, and with the chanel & TV fadded look.
4k files, interpolated from 2K masters, sold as UHD Blu Ray, and people proud saying: "Hey I have a 4K film."  And you can't see 4K even if the file was true and if compression had no loss, caus if you stand close enought to see it the TV get way more distortion of brightness distribution along screen surface.
And OLED have motion blur too.

Good DVDs on good CRT was ok. DVD use to have better rendering of shaddows, while actual encoding used in Blu-Rays and TVs have poor shadows (more prone to blocking a lot) and les percentage of detail loss in motion.

Here a TV I would like to have, and it's hight than 1080p:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tFzHJLtcCI

Let's stop this off topic or they will delete our posts.
:-)