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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You know, I agree.&nbsp; Perhaps this is why I haven&#039;t bothered to use knock.wav lately.&nbsp; DJ, you&#039;ve correct about 6.4 covering &#039;case resonance&#039; where it did not exist to this character before.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dklein]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-28T08:17:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dklein wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I enjoy knock.wav for simulating the reverb withing the piano&#039;s own case (I can&#039;t remember from where I downloaded it).</p></blockquote></div><p>knock.wav, originally posted by Gilles in <a href="https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=5818">this thread</a>, is available <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/ptqspecprof/temp">here</a>, though it seems questionable whether it&#039;s still needed under 6.x... David, have you tried things both with and without knock.wav recently?&nbsp; the model seems to be taking care of case resonance quite well now, so i wonder about the continued utility of using this IR for the purpose...?&nbsp; but perhaps under your custom setup it&#039;s indeed an added benefit?&nbsp; </p><p>cheers,<br />dj</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[_DJ_]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-28T07:11:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy knock.wav for simulating the reverb withing the piano&#039;s own case (I can&#039;t remember from where I downloaded it).</p><p>David</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2019-02-28T01:13:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Qexl.&nbsp; Excellent information.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scorpio]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-27T12:18:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi scorpio,</p><br /><p>If you <strong>drag in</strong></p><p>same-name-impulse-reverb-file-except-<strong>the-L</strong>.wav </p><p><strong>Pianoteq</strong> silently helps and <strong>auto-loads</strong> the </p><p>same-name-impulse-reverb-file-except-<strong>the-R</strong>.wav </p><p>as long as <strong>if in the same directory, and vice versa</strong>, whether you drag the R or L file, <strong>Pianoteq knows to pair them</strong>.</p><br /><p>When changing an IR reverb file, I&#039;d suggest to always momentarily halt any midi playback and default back to a standard reverb (select something like &#039;Clean Studio&#039;) - then proceed to change your IR reverbs - do this for each change you want to make. </p><p>I found that for example, beginning with a preset using quad files OR with midi in playback, dragging in L or R etc sometimes didn&#039;t change anything. </p><p>But, if you remember to refresh like that, the IR file you next drag in should work as expected.</p><br /><p>BTW - If you want to use just one of these files by itself, for effect you might want reverb to wash on the right side, you can make a copy of the audio-R.wav file and change the name of this to remove the L or R at the end (like now just audio.wav), then drag/drop that in and it works as a single stereo IR file (with likely more right side reverb wash) without Pianoteq auto-pairing them. </p><p>If any improvement to usability comes to mind, other than walk-throughs or examples in manual:</p><p>Feedback in the recent files list (inside the reverb/&quot;use WAV Impulse&quot; menu) may be an improvement in terms of understanding what&#039;s loaded. </p><p>Currently if you drag in a &quot;filename-L.wav&quot; file, the recent list only shows that file as having being loaded (ignoring the R version - it shouldn&#039;t matter per se but, it may be confusing, as per &#039;what&#039;s really been loaded?), whereas, maybe an entry like:</p><p>File-name-L.wav **</p><p>with 2 asterisks to denote successful stereo pair matching or </p><p>File-name-L.wav * </p><p>to denote a missing R or L match, or maybe better</p><p>File-name-R.wav - L<br />File-name-R.wav - R<br />File-name-R.wav - L&amp;R</p><p>?</p><p>The feature is marvelous and implementation is made as simple as a drag-drop and I prefer it to other IR reverbs for ideal reproduction of the IR space.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Qexl]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-27T04:24:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the bump.&nbsp; Still wondering the appropriate way to get stereo impulse response files loaded.&nbsp; I did not see anything in the user manual.&nbsp; Thanks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scorpio]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-27T00:25:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am confused.&nbsp; To get true stereo, I need to load both -R and -L wav files?&nbsp; </p><p>Currently when I load the first file (eg. &quot;-R.wav&quot;), Pianoteq says &quot;Impulse loaded, 2x2 (true stereo) channels, ...&quot;<br />So do I then still need to load the &quot;-L.wav&quot; file?&nbsp; &nbsp;Adding the second file doesn&#039;t change the message, so I am not<br />really sure what is going on.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scorpio]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-02-22T16:01:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanks a lot for contributing this thread.&nbsp; i lately became interested in exploring the IR part of the reverb effect but had no idea what to do.&nbsp; this discussion made it easy.&nbsp; there are some truly beautiful effects available with the Samplicity IRs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[budo]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-12T18:28:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s interesting about the St. Albans IRs. It&#039;s a pity they didn&#039;t record the true stereo, because it&#039;s quite a nice reverb. A missed opportunity!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-12T08:38:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s a really great feature - looking forward to trying it out with the Samplicity IRs. I wonder if it will work with these files, which I believe may also be true stereo, but have &#039;a&#039; and &#039;b&#039; in the filenames: <a href="http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationdb/content/lady-chapel-st-albans-cathedral">http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationd...-cathedral</a></p></blockquote></div><p>For true stereo you need 2 stereo files. The way this is done: on the left side of the stage is a loudspeaker, which emits the testsignal; this is recorded by 2 microphones in the hall; one on the left side, the other on the right side: this recording is the -L.wav stereo file; after that: a loudspeaker on the right side of the stage emits a signal which is recorded by the same 2 mic&#039;s; gives the -R.wav stereo file.<br />If you look at the diagram of the lady-chapel-st-albans-cathedral IR recording you see that it&#039;s done in a very a-symetrical way; you can combine the A and B stereo&#039;s IR&#039;s but it will sound kinda weird.<br />(for fun: just change the name, so they end with -L.wav and -R.wav).<br />With some soundediting tricks it&#039;s possibe in this case to make a believable true stereo IR, but it&#039;s not recorded, which is a pity.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marc Verhoeven]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-11T21:13:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you, Marc, for spotting that issue, we will fix it.</p></blockquote></div><p>When you&#039;re at it: would be nice if PT could also load .L.wav/.R.wav; L.wav R.wav; _L.wav/_R.wav</p><p>Another idea: compatibility with .SDIR format (Logic Audio). The are basicically AIFC files, just renaming them to .wav or.aiff is enough to get the mono-stereo ones loaded. There are also some, 5 or 6, true stereo&nbsp; SDIR IR&#039;s, not enough for the hassle to get them load as 2x2.</p><p>Something really cool would be if PT would be able to load Bformat IR&#039;s. Those are are all over the net, a lot are in the openair lib, and possibly very usefull for users that use more than 2 audio-outputs.</p><p>At any rate: update the manual/ or website with precise info about what can be loaded as Impulse Response, possible formats, channel arrangements etc. It took a lot of time to find these things out (it was also very gratifying in the end, so I&#039;m not complaining, I live in another hall every hour ;-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marc Verhoeven]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-11T20:59:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s a really great feature - looking forward to trying it out with the Samplicity IRs. I wonder if it will work with these files, which I believe may also be true stereo, but have &#039;a&#039; and &#039;b&#039; in the filenames: <a href="http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationdb/content/lady-chapel-st-albans-cathedral">http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationd...-cathedral</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-10T10:26:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Marc, for spotting that issue, we will fix it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[julien]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-10T10:09:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Found the solution: PT cannot load a true stereo IR with an extra dot (.) in the name.<br />So, e.g. &quot;Hall 3.4s -L.aif&quot; &amp; &quot;Hall 3.4 -R.aif&quot; will not load as true stereo IR, but renamed to&nbsp; &quot;Hall 3,4s -L.aif&quot; &amp; &quot;Hall 3,4 -R.aif&quot; it will work.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marc Verhoeven]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-07T20:54:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Problem loading true stereo Impulse Responses]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Pianoteq can load true-stereo Impulse Response (IR&#039;s), which is great.<br />The manual is unclear, but is seems PT can load both .wav and .aiff files, in all common bitdepth (16,24,32) and sample-rates(44,48,96 others not tested)<br />Also: it can load multichannel files. Haven&#039;t tested this yet, but I presume that e.g. a 4channel IR will put a mono to mono reverb on first 4 microphones if used with 4 outputs.<br />True-stereo IR&#039;s (both channels are processed with a stereo IR) can be loaded by dropping the Left-channel IR of a True Stereo file onto the Reverb-window: the True Stereo IR needs to consist of 2 stereofiles, with the names ending in -L.wav and -R.wav. (probably also -L.aiff and -R.aiff ).<br />My problem: this is sometimes working, and sometimes not. If it&#039;s not working PT says 2 ch file loaded, if it is working it says 2x2 truestereo loaded.<br />Sometimes it&#039;s even complaining about IR&#039;s not being a real .wav file, even when they are; also it&#039;s picky about naming, _L.wav and _R.wav or L.wav and R.wav are not working.<br />My guess is that there&#039;s some flag inside the .wav file, but I don&#039;t know how to set this or how to fix this. <br />If you want to try: these are working true stereo IR&#039;s : <a href="http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m7-impulse-responses/">http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m7-i...responses/</a> I tried the 32bit 48kHz version.<br />I made some IR&#039;s edited with Samplitude in the past: they work, the IR&#039;s I edited with Samplemanager (audiofile-engineering) on a Mac don&#039;t work. I&#039;m on a Mac.<br />Any idea&#039;s?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marc Verhoeven]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-29T10:56:34Z</updated>
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