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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For anybody interested </p><p>I purchased a Mackie Onyx Artist 1.2 &amp; a Behringer UMC 202 HD to play pianoteq through studio monitors.<br />I first wanted to get a Schiit Dac but the customer service never got back to me so don&#039;t want to give them money if they don&#039;t even care to e-mail back....</p><p>Anyways the Mackie Interface was quite good, latency 2.7ms with my MacBook. However the MacBook&#039;s internal sound card achieves also 2.7 ms and the sound is the same. I could never tell when connected directly to the MacBook or via Interface. The roundtrip latency in Logic was about 2ms better with the interface.</p><p>The Behringer sound quality was worse than my MacBook&#039;s or the Mackie&#039;s. I&#039;m not recording anything that&#039;s why I wanted to get a DAC only in the first place ... but I wanted something to drive my studio monitors however the MacBook is doing an equivalent job as the interfaces tested.... so it&#039;s hard to justify $100 for no improvement and no difference.</p><p>Anyway, thought might be interesting to know and share these experiences.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lovelovemale]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-07-04T07:15:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. It seems as though I may have finally got an audio setup worthy of Pianoteq 6.2.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-22T16:13:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes that&#039;s the same thing. &quot;WA&quot; in WASAPI is &quot;Windows Audio&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-22T15:27:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Will take a look at WASAPI - I was vaguely aware of its existence but didn&#039;t realise it would be any good for Pianoteq. Thanks, EvilDragon!</p><p>(Update) - uh, got confused there for a few minutes. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but WASAPI is the same as Windows Audio (Exclusive Mode), right? I used to avoid Windows Audio, thinking I would get horrible latency, but I tried it just now and (touch wood) it seemed fine. Played lots of crazy notes in the bass with the pedal on and got away with it! That&#039;s not the way I normally play the piano <i class="far fa-grin-tears smiley"></i> so WA should be great if I want to use my audio DAC.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-22T11:54:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I had no problems with built-in WASAPI in W10. In many cases it worked better than ASIO4ALL...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-22T11:01:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, I&#039;m well aware of the excellent reputation of RME, but they&#039;re way beyond my budget, unfortunately.</p><p>This Windows audio driver issue is one of the factors that makes people look at Linux, isn&#039;t it? On Linux, when it&#039;s set up with a low-latency kernel, you can use a good quality audio DAC without worrying about drivers. I did experiment with Linux Mint a while ago, I liked it, but the computer I installed it on no longer works. Looks like I might need to get back into Linux...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-22T10:50:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(whispers) ... rme, check for rme ... ... ... zzz</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AKM]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-21T18:14:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone done a list of &#039;tried and tested&#039; interfaces that are known to work well with Pianoteq on Windows - i.e. good sound AND reliable ASIO drivers? It seems that even if an interface has ASIO drivers they are not always particularly good! (I tried a Zoom U-24: it may have been OK with DAWs but for Pianoteq standalone it was a piece of junk - absolutely ridiculous latency, couldn&#039;t work with it at all).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazric]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-21T17:11:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve no experience with Mackie audio interfaces, they&#039;re not often seen in those circles, whereas Focusrite is quite commonplace. Perhaps that says something.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T21:54:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I&#039;m not very tech savvy with what&#039;s good in terms of DAC so thanks for clarification!<br />So basically no improvement can be expected from the Schiit right?</p><p>Also one more question to you Evil Dragon:</p><p>Will the Mackie Onyx Artist audio interface be also in the same ballpark as the Focusrite Scarlett?</p><p>Thanks again!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lovelovemale]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T21:33:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What R&amp;D, they are using off-the-shelf DAC chip (AKM AK4490 or Analog Devices AD5547 depending on model)? <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Scarlett uses Cirrus Logic CS4272, IIRC.</p><p>All of these are more or less in the ballpark...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T20:51:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input!</p><p>I just thought since I am not using ANY of the Scarlett&#039;s features except using it as a &quot;DAC&quot; but I paid for the preamps, instrument inputs etc....</p><p>I thought maybe the R&amp;D of the Schiit purely as a DAC will sound better since they solely focus on that except focusing providing an all in one solution in form of an interface...</p><p>Thought maybe somebody has had the chance to have tried this setup with Pianoteq so far</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lovelovemale]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T20:08:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess it could work alright with CoreAudio. But I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll have any huge benefits regarding fidelity of sound compared to Scarlett...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T19:47:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do they even have ASIO drivers? If not, your Scarlett would be better.</p></blockquote></div><p>I believe not, I would use it with a MacBook, as far as my research goes they&#039;s use core audio then since Macs don&#039;t need the ASIO right?</p><p>Thanks for your input!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lovelovemale]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T19:29:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Schiit Dac for Pianoteq, latency? Sound quality?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Do they even have ASIO drivers? If not, your Scarlett would be better.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-19T19:19:40Z</updated>
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