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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I ran 2 tests on these 2 files scherbakov.al - each until I was confident in my decisions.</p><p>1st. <br />When I knew which files were being played, preferred 192k (placebo) - could not change my mind, even trying to convince myself that the 44100 was just as good.</p><p>2nd. <br />Blind - I preferred 44100 - did not expect it - expected to feel they were too similar or that the 192k would still deliver better sound, even if due to some tech black box oddity.</p><p>Hoping that&#039;s helpful.</p><p>I am tending to work at 48k until I bounce to audio (then decide depending per project).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Qexl]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-15T19:42:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I generated 2 files for comparison 44100 and 192000 Hz. I used Reaper, Pianoteq Steingraeber (Recording 3 by default) and binauralizer from Noisemakers:</p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhonu5ipfjpzujg/binaural%2Bptq%20test%2044100.wav?dl=0">44 100 Hz</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ly39my2tm5240pg/binaural%2Bptq%20test%20192000.wav?dl=0">192 000 Hz</a></p><p>video:</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/159USGOD5hk">https://youtu.be/159USGOD5hk</a></p><p>If you listen to a comparison from a device that can switch the mode of the audio card to the resolution of the file, then you can hear some differences. (for example Audirvana or Neutron player for Android(Yes, yes .. my android supports 192,000 Hz.))</p><p>What differences do you find?</p><p>Upd^( I want to note that Pianoteq, while exporting 192 000 hz, was in the regime of 48 000 hz.)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scherbakov.al]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-15T18:51:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lavry is an extremely smart man.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T16:19:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly I came across a Sound On Sound article a few days ago that linked to a white paper written by someone well above my mental capacity (This guy: <a href="http://www.lavryengineering.com/about.html">http://www.lavryengineering.com/about.html</a> ) that actually states the counter argument that we&#039;d be worse off at 192khz using current technologies: <a href="http://lavryengineering.com/pdfs/lavry-sampling-theory.pdf">http://lavryengineering.com/pdfs/lavry-...theory.pdf</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>There are reports of better sound with higher sampling rates. No doubt, the folks that like the<br />&quot;sound of a 192KHz&quot; converter hear something. Clearly it has nothing to do with more<br />bandwidth: the instruments make next to no 96KHz sound, the microphones don&#039;t respond to<br />it, the speakers don&#039;t produce it, and the ear can not hear it.</p><p>Moreover, we hear some reports about &quot;some of that special quality captured by that 192KHz<br />is retained when down sampling to 44.1KHz. Such reports neglect the fact that a 44.1KHz<br />sampled material can not contain above 22.05KHz of audio.</p><p>Some claim that that 192K is closer to the audio tape. That same tape that typically contains<br />&quot;only&quot; 20KHz of audio gets converted to digital by a 192K AD, than stripped out of all possible<br />content above 22KHz (down sample to CD).</p><p>“If you hear it, there is something there” is an artistic statement. If you like it and want to use it,<br />go ahead. But whatever you hear is not due to energy above audio. All is contained within the<br />&quot;lower band&quot;. It could be certain type of distortions that sound good to you. Can it be that<br />someone made a real good 192KHz device, and even after down sampling it has fewer<br />distortions? Not likely. The same converter architecture can be optimized for slower rates and<br />with more time to process it should be more accurate (less distortions).</p><p>The danger here is that people who hear something they like may associate better sound with<br />faster sampling, wider bandwidth, and higher accuracy. This indirectly implies that lower rates<br />are inferior. Whatever one hears on a 192KHz system can be introduced into a 96KHz system,<br />and much of it into lower sampling rates. That includes any distortions associated with 192KHz<br />gear, much of which is due to insufficient time to achieve the level of accuracy of slower<br />sampling.</p><p><strong>Conclusion:</strong></p><p>There is an inescapable tradeoff between faster sampling on one hand and a loss of accuracy,<br />increased data size and much additional processing requirement on the other hand.</p><p>AD converter designers can not generate 20 bits at MHz speeds, yet they often utilize a circuit<br />yielding a few bits at MHz speeds as a step towards making many bits at lower speeds.</p><p>The compromise between speed and accuracy is a permanent engineering and scientific<br />reality.</p><p>Sampling audio signals at 192KHz is about 3 times faster than the optimal rate.<br />It compromises the accuracy which ends up as audio distortions.</p><p>While there is no up side to operation at excessive speeds, there are further disadvantages:<br />1. The increased speed causes larger amount of data (impacting data storage and data<br />transmission speed requirements).<br />2. Operating at 192KHz causes a very significant increase in the required processing<br />power, resulting in very costly gear and/or further compromise in audio quality.</p><p>The optimal sample rate should be largely based on the required signal bandwidth. Audio<br />industry salesman have been promoting faster than optimal rates. The promotion of such ideas<br />is based on the fallacy that faster rates yield more accuracy and/or more detail. Weather<br />motivated by profit or ignorance, the promoters, leading the industry in the wrong direction, are <br />stating the opposite of what is true.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mcbpete]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T13:43:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One explanation (apart from Pianoteq modeling being better at 192 kHz internal) is the quality of up and downsampling on the DAC used for listening.</p></blockquote></div><p>Output stage of DACs are always a compromise and should be better for most of us at 192KHz, particularly at higher audible frequencies.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T13:14:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One explanation (apart from Pianoteq modeling being better at 192 kHz internal) is the quality of up and downsampling on the DAC used for listening. Maybe some modern chips work better at 192 kHz and downsample to lower sample rate with some errors added.</p><p>One site of interest is this free site having the same recording in a variety of styles, formats and sample rates: <a href="http://www.2l.no/hires/">http://www.2l.no/hires/</a></p><p>If you hear a better result from these recordings at 192kHz than lower, maybe the DAC is to blame...or you have exceptional ears. <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T12:50:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T10:23:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well if that&#039;s the case doesn&#039;t that make direct comparisons in the minutiae of the audible difference between these high sample-rates near impossible ?!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mcbpete]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T09:19:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mcbpete wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is there maybe some random number generation in the modelling of the sound production in Pianoteq so you wouldn&#039;t be able to get the same result twice ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Of course, like it is at a real acoustic piano. You never have the same start conditions and sound progressions.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-08-25T05:58:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>scherbakov.al wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WAV 44100: <br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfwecp90acf22jv/44100.wav?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfwecp90acf22...0.wav?dl=0</a></p><p>WAV 192000:<br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d0j6u5e3enpwxo/192000.wav?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d0j6u5e3enpw...0.wav?dl=0</a></p></blockquote></div><p>What I can&#039;t quite work out is why there&#039;s so much of a difference in the dynamics of the two examples (44.1 in green, 192 in blue). Note for example the tail being visible for at least 3 more seconds in the 192khz version (The green line disappearing around 33 sec leaving just the blue line (192khz version) visible till just past the 36 second mark):</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.ilovecubus.co.uk/pete/pteq44v192.png" alt="http://www.ilovecubus.co.uk/pete/pteq44v192.png" title="http://www.ilovecubus.co.uk/pete/pteq44v192.png"/></span>Is there maybe some random number generation in the modelling of the sound production in Pianoteq so you wouldn&#039;t be able to get the same result twice ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mcbpete]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-24T22:28:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reiterating request that PianoTeq offers 192KHz internal processing option on TRAIL version, even without all the extra features offered by Pro.</p><p>The limited samples above provided by scherbakov.al are very promising. Sound quality improvement might motivate a lot of new users to buy the Pro. And current owners to upgrade to Pro. </p><p>Thank you in advance Modartt team.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-08-24T14:37:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Temperament wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi, I have experienced - and still do - very pronounced differences with playback in different sample rates, RedBook CD vs.HighRes SDM vs. DSD, reproduceably, beyond any placebo effects, despite of my old ears.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m with you. Just one experience I had recently:</p><p>At the moment I&#039;m using my Intel N4200 Laptop (fanless), which has a subpar Audiocodec ALC255 with just 44100 and 48000 Hz PCM.</p><p>On my some years older Laptop with its better ALC283 I always used 48000 Hz with 64 samples. The ALC255 needs a minimum of 128 samples to work stable at this rate. Believe it or not - with 128 samples the system feels more sluggish, than with 64 samples. I don&#039;t like that and don&#039;t want to adapt.</p><p>So I decided to downsize to 44100 Hz to be able to use 64 samples again. That&#039;s my setup to test the new v6.2.x releases at the moment. Latency excellent again. Pianoteq dito.</p><p><strong>But the point is:</strong> With 44100 Hz it <strong>sounds different</strong> to 48000 Hz!</p><p>If &quot;better&quot; or &quot;worse&quot; is in the ear of the listener, but that it sounds different at all is funny. From Nyquist&#039;s point of view, it shouldn&#039;t - but it does. You might say &quot;placebo!&quot;, but as long as a Laptop is a blackbox it must be allowed to say &quot;difference!&quot;</p><p>cheers</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-06-18T21:01:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>scherbakov.al wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>no problem</p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415340/027242ad9fb0aa2aec5d3504209c6b64/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415346/f6bfed274a39b3901417d208ec01c4f1/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415343/479537e614a86f47a104804942369b79/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You are awesome for doing this!!! </p><p>Please Modartt just allow all versions of Pianoteq to have 192khz internal sample rate. No reason why you shouldn&#039;t.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[theinvisibleman]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-06-17T11:29:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this effort Mr. scherbakov</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>scherbakov.al wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Convert to mp3:<br />(from the 26-th second)</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.php?file=44100.mp3">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...=44100.mp3</a><br /><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.php?file=192000.mp3">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...192000.mp3</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Well, these mp3 tails sound different. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>scherbakov.al wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WAV 44100: <br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfwecp90acf22jv/44100.wav?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfwecp90acf22...0.wav?dl=0</a></p><p>WAV 192000:<br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d0j6u5e3enpwxo/192000.wav?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d0j6u5e3enpw...0.wav?dl=0</a></p></blockquote></div><p>I listened to these .wav files at least a dozen times using my RME Babyface Pro to swap playback from 44,1 to 192 KHz. Used both speakers and headphones. The 192 KHz file sounds smoother, fuller and more natural to my ears from beginning to end. No contest.</p><p>Perhaps that could be the PianoTeq software and/or the BabyFace conversion. I am thinking there is no sample rate conversion going on inside PianoTeq and the 192KHz mode naturally has more refined processing/mapping. But these are both black boxes so who knows. </p><p>Maybe Modartt should provide some sort of trial version of PianoTeq Pro so users can noodle around with the 192KHz mode.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-06-17T05:36:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exporting at 192kHz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>no problem</p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415340/027242ad9fb0aa2aec5d3504209c6b64/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/245442935dd17942ed133ca8fa70c231/1529056346/26721/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_40_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415340/440x379-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415346/f6bfed274a39b3901417d208ec01c4f1/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/0a987a135a6eea68f15317015f3f33e2/1529056376/23957/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_40_25_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415346/500x301-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p><p><a href="http://piccy.info/view3/12415343/479537e614a86f47a104804942369b79/"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg" alt="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg" title="http://i.piccy.info/i9/a909c9cd48a6161feca7d80919a168bd/1529056363/29550/1251550/Snymok_ekrana_2018_06_15_v_12_41_29_500.jpg"/></span></a><a href="http://i.piccy.info/a3c/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif" alt="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif" title="http://i.piccy.info/a3/2018-06-15-09-52/i9-12415343/468x356-r/i.gif"/></span></a></p>]]></content>
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