Thread on Reaper forums here:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=71398
Recording here:
]]>I have a 100+ years old Burger&Jacoby that needs an overhaul, but is otherwise a VERY splendid sounding Swiss-made upright. It's the largest upright size that I know of (around 130 cm IIRC).
I still remember the recordings that you posted of a woman (in Australia, I believe) playing a wonderful, large upright, with traffic noise mixed in, unfortunately. That's the sound that I want. Minus the traffic noise.
]]>Just found this one, really seductive sounding IMHO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDKWTlSyBf8
Of course, there are many, many more.....
BUT as popular as the Y.....a has been, it is no mystery that their upright school console is as close as you can find to the omnipresent Baldwin / Hamilton school/studio piano of the late 1940's, 50s, 60s, 70s. The cabinets are almost identical. Thousands of piano teachers and schools had Hamilton studio pianos. A book of Carl Czerny or Charles Hanon sitting on a Baldwin Hamilton studio piano was about as common as peanut butter and jelly.
You want another upright for jazz and blues ... then look no further. No aging slider needed. The Baldwin/Hamilton studio upright is the most copied school piano in the world.
IMHO,
Lanny
P.S. Now the oriental manufacturers copy the Y......a P....# ;p)
]]>Not in any opposed to another upright, but a few thoughts :
Have you tried using the "condition" slider (i.e. on another model, like the U4) ?
[...]And have you experimented with the many controls in Standard ( and the more extensive ones in Pro ) ?
Obviously that won't necessarily get you a completely new model, but there is a lot of scope for customizing the sound of any instrument.
As I have mentioned, I have been a (all in all rather satisfied) Pianoteq user since version 4.5, it's been over 4 years now. So yes, I have indeed. I know about the possibilites to vary the soundboard size, unison width and condition, or to apply effects like chorus. But as you said, this won't make a pseudo-Yamaha into a Grotrian upright, or a Schimmel. Just like the Steinway B sounds different from the D in ways you can't really achieve by taking the D and adjusting its soundboard size, and you can't make the K2 into a Steinway B.
]]>but something with flaws, something with character
Have you tried using the "condition" slider (i.e. on another model, like the U4) ?
or that slightly detuned, 'dirty' Yamaha-ish setup available through the Session Keys Upright instrument.
And have you experimented with the many controls in Standard ( and the more extensive ones in Pro ) ?
Obviously that won't necessarily get you a completely new model, but there is a lot of scope for customizing the sound of any instrument.
]]>Something, I always thought, how much of us amateur/hobby piano player mostly/always play on an upright.
However, almost all Piano software, including PTQ, has 99% really big grand pianos.
I always feel some kind of mismatch, when I switch from my real, acoustic 110cm Grotrian upright to Pianoteq at night,
then I also have a Grotrian, but the 277cm grand piano, which ist a totally different kind of playing.
So, instead of a bunch of even more concert grand pianos, at least one nice alternative to the Yamaha U4 would
be very helpful, I think.