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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Petrof Upright vs Pianoteq Upright U4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jcfelice88keys wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> I would prefer to restate the question as &quot;How Well Does An Acoustic Petrof Upright compare with Pianoteq U4?&quot;&nbsp; Of course, this sounds ridiculous at first thought.&nbsp; Upon further reflection, however, one becomes aware that even mass produced acoustic pianos have a ton of variability between examples of the same brand, model, length, and even manufacture date.&nbsp; Such is not the case with Pianoteq, unless someone goes in and lightly randomizes some aspects as Unison Width, Damper Release Time, etc.</p></blockquote></div><p>You are quite correct, and that&#039;s the reason I really don&#039;e enjoy acoustics much any more.&nbsp; I find playing the Pianoteq in my home, to be a much more satisfying experience than struggling with a heavy action Baldwin grand with overly hard hammers, and neglected tuning that belongs to a friend of mine.&nbsp; It&#039;s impossible to play it with any subtlety.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GRB]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-17T13:37:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Petrof Upright vs Pianoteq Upright U4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Mr. Gilles that the acoustic Petrof is the first of each pair.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Well, the tuning isn&#039;t as stable as the Pianoteq U4.&nbsp; Also in the third pair (the D7th chord) I could hear the Petrof&#039;s F# above Middle C ring slightly longer upon release.&nbsp; This is because the Petrof&#039;s dampers are not regulated as well as Pianoteq&#039;s modeled nature.&nbsp; (If anything, this is exactly why I like to use Pianoteq PRO to randomize some of these extraneous effects, such as damper release time, away from mathematical perfection of release.)</p><p>Also, if you notice the digital representations of waveforms, one can see that the attack volumes were fairly normalized between acoustic and virtual pianos, but the Petrof&#039;s sound decayed sooner than Pianoteq&#039;s.&nbsp; Of course, this could be made closer to one another by adjusting some of Pianoteq&#039;s soundboard characteristics.</p><p>* * * * * * * </p><p>Personally, I would prefer to restate the question as &quot;How Well Does An Acoustic Petrof Upright compare with Pianoteq U4?&quot;&nbsp; Of course, this sounds ridiculous at first thought.&nbsp; Upon further reflection, however, one becomes aware that even mass produced acoustic pianos have a ton of variability between examples of the same brand, model, length, and even manufacture date.&nbsp; Such is not the case with Pianoteq, unless someone goes in and lightly randomizes some aspects as Unison Width, Damper Release Time, etc.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jcfelice88keys]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-11T17:20:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Petrof Upright vs Pianoteq Upright U4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. The Petrof is always the first one since I can hear some of the live microphone ambiance, but still your U4 imitation is very well done...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gilles]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-11T16:58:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Petrof Upright vs Pianoteq Upright U4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I made a direct comparison of Petrof Upright piano and Pianoteq U4 upright.<br />What do you think? Which sounds better? Can you guess which one is real piano and which is Pianoteq?</p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/portablehole/petrof-vs-u4">https://soundcloud.com/portablehole/petrof-vs-u4</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Portable Hole]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-11T15:48:46Z</updated>
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