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I'm glad I splurged on the YC5.

I bought the YC5 a while back, but usually ignored it in favor of the Grotrian Concert Royal and the Model B in Pianoteq 5. But I love the YC5 in Pianoteq 6.

When I play the YC5, the upper harmonics sound similar to a glass harp. It's beautiful, but a little too strong for my taste. I just scaled back the sympathetic resonance and cut-off - both a tad. It made the instrument more to my liking.

I'm glad I splurged on the YC5.

Thanks, Stephen. I like the YC5, and I think you did a great job on that FXP. I don't understand how you make that fast velocity curve play normal.

If the preset doesn't sound right or good to you with your MIDI keyboard and playing technique, be sure to change to a different velocity curve that is more appropriate for your keyboard and your fingers, or that FXP could sound awfully sharp and harsh. You could first Reset the velocity curve (using its own title menu), then choose one of the faster or slower keyboard velocity curves, until you find one that sounds good. My MIDI keyboard (a Kawai VPC1, tends to send "hot" MIDI velocities even with moderate finger force, so I had to create a fairly steep downward velocity curve for it.

Another thing you could do to take off the sharp edge (overly treble) of the FXP I made is to either reset the Equalizer (to make it have a flat response) or turn off the Equalizer (click its glowing green "LED" to turn it off).

Try adjusting the Equalizer (which affects each note individually before the combined output signal), the EQU3 parametric equalizer in the effects (which affects the stereo or multiple output), reducing the hammer hardness, especially for the mezzo (medium) and forte (loud) velocity ranges. You can also try lowering the Impedance (of the soundboard), adjusting the Direct Sound Duration (to a higher value perhaps). Just a few ideas.

Thanks, Stephen. I like the YC5, and I think you did a great job on that FXP. I don't understand how you make that fast velocity curve play normal.

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I'm hearing a high pitched upper harmonics when I play the YC5 with the pedal that I'd like to dial back a little bit. I have P6 Standard. Any suggestions?

Try adjusting the Equalizer (which affects each note individually before the combined output signal), the EQU3 parametric equalizer in the effects (which affects the stereo or multiple output), reducing the hammer hardness, especially for the mezzo (medium) and forte (loud) velocity ranges. You can also try lowering the Impedance (of the soundboard), adjusting the Direct Sound Duration (to a higher value perhaps). Just a few ideas.

It's beneficial to become familiar with Pianoteq's various adjustments, because only your ears, while you are listening to the sound, can determine which of them have the most effect, or any effect at all, on the particular aspect of the sound that you are focused upon. Sometimes those inconsistencies and idiosyncracies of sound are in the speakers, headphones or somewhere else in the audio-signal chain, however.

I am extremely impressed with the YT clip - if anyone else wants to have a crack.......

Greg

Stephen: sorry to be a wet blanket, but I'm not wowed yet. There is a TON of high frequency stuff going on in the YT clip that I don't hear in yours.  Yours sounds pretty, but quite a long way from the clip.

@Greg--
Please feel free to be a wet blanket if you wish.

I'm not trying to imitate the YouTube clip; I'm not very impressed with its audio. I'm merely trying to create a YC5 preset that is fairly bright and even across the range, with some additional character (such as condition, unison width expansion and hammer noise, changes in soundboard impedance, direct sound duration, string length, etc.), a custom preset that I can be happy with myself.

I haven't tried your preset yet - just listening to your audio.

And I'm not having to use high end gear to hear the difference - phone over BT to car stereo.

Thanks for your time though.

Greg.

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/7qw998y2

(MP3 demo file included with .fxp file in "FXP Corner" link in webpage header)

Be sure to use an appropriate velocity curve suited to the velocity response of your particular MIDI keyboard, or this .fxp custom preset is likely to sound much too bright even when played with a moderate touch or softly.

If you like the .fxp preset but feel it can be improved in some way after using it for a while, please let me know.

(Note: this is not the preset referred to in my previous post in this topic and used for its MP3 file, nor am I trying to imitate the sound of the recorded Yamaha grand in the YouTube video above.)

skip wrote:

Maybe I don't deserve any help and should just go and jump in the lake.

No, your preferences are your preferences, as valid as anyone else's. I think I'll take a good listen to the full YouTube video.

Edit-- Gosh, Greg, the audio in that YouTube video makes that Yamaha grand sound like a rinky-dink, tinny bar piano.

OK, How does this sound to your ears?

Pianoteq YC5 Yamaha grand, bright, edited
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...bright.mp3

wow!! to my ears, you sound delightful. super enjoyed. listened twice.

Well, there was a time, in earlier versions,when everyone pointed specially the middle range as problematic. In the last days I only heard you refer about the trebble as still synthetic.