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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Nice video. The dark room for the Kawai controller in such angle, and the natural sound makes it almost like a real piano video.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 11:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Frederic Chopin - Nocturne E-flat Major Op.9 No2]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice video. The dark room for the Kawai controller in such angle, and the natural sound makes it almost like a real piano video.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2017 14:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another recording - this time sound and vision <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />...and the question is: Is it Bluthner or Steinway?</p><p>I know that it is KAWAI VPC1 <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><br /><p><a href="https://youtu.be/i1nQ80IcySM">https://youtu.be/i1nQ80IcySM</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sistermusic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Lovely playing with a beautiful simplicity.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lovely playing with a beautiful simplicity.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dklein wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, I may not be a Yamaha fan, but I&#039;ve played from short to long as well as their ubiquitous U1 (maybe that&#039;s what the U stands for, no?).&nbsp; </p><p>If I was in a room with a Steinway M and a Yamaha C3, and I was given the C3, I&#039;d feel a little remorse.&nbsp; But Yamaha&#039;s 9 foot CF III is fabulous - I&#039;d rather play the CF III than a Steinway S, M, L, or O.&nbsp; If, in fact, the room held a Steinway D and a Yamaha CF III, I would not feel slighted at all if I drew the the straw to play the CF III instead of the Steinway D.&nbsp; It&#039;s solid and very rewarding!</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually, the U stands for &quot;upright&quot; when it comes to naming the U4.&nbsp; Generally, U1 and U3 is sold in the USA with an occasional U5.&nbsp; The U2 model upright Yamaha is sold mainly in Asia.&nbsp; I have no translation for what CF means by Yamaha, but I do know that the C designation stands for the &quot;Conservatory&quot; model.&nbsp; &nbsp;Likewise, I suspect that the higher-priced, handmade-in-Japan S model series stands for &quot;Special&quot;.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2017 05:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Frederic Chopin - Nocturne E-flat Major Op.9 No2]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I may not be a Yamaha fan, but I&#039;ve played from short to long as well as their ubiquitous U1 (maybe that&#039;s what the U stands for, no?).&nbsp; </p><p>If I was in a room with a Steinway M and a Yamaha C3, and I was given the C3, I&#039;d feel a little remorse.&nbsp; But Yamaha&#039;s 9 foot CF III is fabulous - I&#039;d rather play the CF III than a Steinway S, M, L, or O.&nbsp; If, in fact, the room held a Steinway D and a Yamaha CF III, I would not feel slighted at all if I drew the the straw to play the CF III instead of the Steinway D.&nbsp; It&#039;s solid and very rewarding!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2017 03:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dklein wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Interesting on what the real D sounds like versus what we imagine that it should sound like.. I went into my local store a year or so ago and found a D to play.&nbsp; I was amazed at how utilitarian it felt, compared to the M and the B that they had (maybe the &quot;home&quot; models are made to be lighter and &quot;more singing&quot; for the amateurs at home, as opposed to for the professionals on concert hall stages).&nbsp; The upper registers of the D were much more neutral than that of the M and the B, and the whole piano appeared to take more effort to play, like driving a manual shift truck instead of a sports car.&nbsp; But the mids and the bass were wonderful!</p></blockquote></div><p>The difference in sound of every grand concert piano compared to smaller brothers is very complex, like the sound itself <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> but, in my opinion, most important thing is the length of strings which influences directly to resonances between them. You&#039;ll never get same sound from longer and shorter string. Once I was in Yamaha store, where I&#039;ve had opportunity to play every grand piano from their offer - from small to concert grand (2.70). It was such mysterious experience - I started from smallest one and ended with &quot;monster&quot;. Differences in sound on every registers were colossal and fun of playing concert grand is priceless - for every other stuff you can pay with VISA <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><p>Best regards</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2017 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting on what the real D sounds like versus what we imagine that it should sound like.. I went into my local store a year or so ago and found a D to play.&nbsp; I was amazed at how utilitarian it felt, compared to the M and the B that they had (maybe the &quot;home&quot; models are made to be lighter and &quot;more singing&quot; for the amateurs at home, as opposed to for the professionals on concert hall stages).&nbsp; The upper registers of the D were much more neutral than that of the M and the B, and the whole piano appeared to take more effort to play, like driving a manual shift truck instead of a sports car.&nbsp; But the mids and the bass were wonderful!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply, Kacper_ek, your modifications are quite similar to the ones I make - I like a piano sound with a little bit of &#039;character&#039;. And yes, Bluthner is my favourite too!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dazric wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>+1.<br />Kacper_ek, if you don&#039;t mind me asking, what presets did you use and how did you modify them? I have been a Bluthner fan ever since my student days, when I was lucky enough to have access to a beautiful grand in a room with excellent acoustics. The 1926 Pleyel is one Ptq instrument I couldn&#039;t get along with in v5 - I found it too clattery in louder dynamics, a bit like throwing rusty nails at corrugated iron, I thought! But in v6 it&#039;s so much better, and I love it. (The 1922 Erard is great too). Chopin alternated between Pleyel and Erard, depending on his mood - Erard if he was &#039;not on top form&#039;, but Pleyel if he felt &#039;alert&#039;. I like to think that Chopin would have enjoyed Bluthners as well, but sadly he missed out on them by just a few years (Bluthner started production in 1853).</p></blockquote></div><p>dazric, I used Bluthner Model One AB and the modifications were cosmetic (if I can say so <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> ) - only some more aliquote string noise, little bit more sympathetic resonance. I&#039;ve change also unison width to 1,21 and condition of piano to 0,29, because for me mint condition is some kind of unreal.<br />I must say, that Bluthner is still my favorite sound in PTQ (now v6) but changes they made in Steinway are for a great plus. Couple days ago I&#039;ve play on a Steinway concert grand D4 (analog one, and completely new one <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i> ) and my feelings about are, that in higher registers sound in PTQ is a little to bright (on standard settings) so I try to achieve sound I still have in my ears <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />Best regards for you and sorry for every grammatical mistakes <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stephen_Doonan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Pianoteq&#039;s Bluthner and Pleyel (Chopin&#039;s favorite piano) sound so convincing and authentic, and the performance is wonderful. Thank you.</p></blockquote></div><p>+1.<br />Kacper_ek, if you don&#039;t mind me asking, what presets did you use and how did you modify them? I have been a Bluthner fan ever since my student days, when I was lucky enough to have access to a beautiful grand in a room with excellent acoustics. The 1926 Pleyel is one Ptq instrument I couldn&#039;t get along with in v5 - I found it too clattery in louder dynamics, a bit like throwing rusty nails at corrugated iron, I thought! But in v6 it&#039;s so much better, and I love it. (The 1922 Erard is great too). Chopin alternated between Pleyel and Erard, depending on his mood - Erard if he was &#039;not on top form&#039;, but Pleyel if he felt &#039;alert&#039;. I like to think that Chopin would have enjoyed Bluthners as well, but sadly he missed out on them by just a few years (Bluthner started production in 1853).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Pianoteq&#039;s Bluthner and Pleyel (Chopin&#039;s favorite piano) sound so convincing and authentic, and the performance is wonderful. Thank you.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Some more Chopin <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> recorded with Pleyel sound. </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/f-chopin-nocturne-no-20-in-c-sharp-minor-op-posth">https://soundcloud.com/user-456766191/f...r-op-posth</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just beautiful!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 20:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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