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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: pno scan II strip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1) A Stop-Rail is a movable metal bar with a rubber bumper rail.&nbsp; You move it into place with a lever or a cable to &#039;catch&#039; the hammers just after they are thrown by the escapement, but before they strike the strings, thus preserving the feel of the piano&#039;s action, but producing just a felt-on-rubber sound, which is not too notable when playing a MIDI-derived synthesized or sampled instrument sound.&nbsp; Even with headphones, I find it fine.</p><p>2) My understanding is that stop rails are generally easier to install on modern pianos, ans easier on grand pianos.&nbsp; Mine was a chore mostly because of the unusual nature of the old piano&#039;s action-frame.</p><p>3) Why did I put it into an upright instead of a grand?&nbsp; Because I had wanted an upright for the shape of my room, and for $2200, I felt that the Steinway was a great bargain.&nbsp; It sounds fabulous as an acoustic piano.&nbsp; So now I have the advantage of doing either acoustic or electronic or both.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dklein]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-08-20T18:56:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: pno scan II strip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>David,</p><p>Thank you very much for the detailed information.&nbsp; You did a fantastic job.&nbsp; I have bookmarked your write up.</p><p>It seems you had to do a lot of work to get it up and running.&nbsp; A lot of what you did is beyond my skill, I&#039;m afraid.&nbsp; You mentioned that most of the trouble was with the stop rail.&nbsp; As I understand, the stop rail is built for modern pianos and since you have an antique piano, it didn&#039;t fit right.&nbsp; On a modern baby grand, would all of this extra work be eliminated?</p><p>How does the stop rail work?&nbsp; Do the hammers hit a piece of metal instead of the strings?&nbsp; Does it affect the action?&nbsp; What do you hear when this happens?&nbsp; Would this sound be distracting if I was using headphones instead of speakers?</p><p>Why did you install it in an upright rather than a grand/baby grand?</p><p>Thanks again for the info.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rjawad1]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-08-20T15:46:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: pno scan II strip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If this is similar to the Piano silent systems, then there are other products out there cheaper and their installation available on youtube (mostly from China). I suppose they have midi outputs.</p><p>How they perform compared to the PNO Scan II, I have no clue.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lucy]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-08-20T15:37:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: pno scan II strip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=4460">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=4460</a></p><p>Very accurate, very reproducible. </p><p>One or two competitors, but the names escape me. </p><p>Search this forum for more posts, as well as pianoworld.com .</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dklein]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-08-20T08:40:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[pno scan II strip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Because of disappointment in the key action of currently available digital pianos, I was considering installing a PNO SCAN II strip into my baby grand.&nbsp; This product is advertised on pianoteq&#039;s site, and they offer some sort of discount.&nbsp; The strip is quite expensive (1600? US dollars)</p><p>I&#039;m not experienced with building things, but I&#039;m willing to give it a try.&nbsp; In theory, it seems like a great idea:&nbsp; you get the action of your grand piano, and you get midi capabilities + pianoteq with the PNO strip.&nbsp; However, I am reluctant to start the project because it seems very few people have gotten it to work successfully.&nbsp; Why has no one done this already?&nbsp; There must be problems.</p><p>I found one guy on youtube showing how he equipped his upright with the strip, but he seemed to think it wasn&#039;t worth all the effort.&nbsp; If I recall, he said it was very difficult to calibrate it.&nbsp; There are some piano dealers selling pianos with the strip already installed.&nbsp; In their advertisements, they focus on capabilities I am not interested in such as instant engraving of an improvisation.&nbsp; I don&#039;t really care about these things; I just want a midi controller with the key action of a grand piano.</p><p>My question is, how accurate is this PNO Scan II strip?&nbsp; How sensitive is the strip to the key action of the piano?&nbsp; Does it successfully digitize the key action of the grand piano, or does it just kind of work well enough to notate a song on the fly (as the advertisements show).&nbsp; Have any of you been successful in installing this strip and getting it to work with pianoteq?&nbsp; Is it just OK or is it really good?</p><p>Thank you,<br />--Ryan</p><p>Edit:&nbsp; I forgot to ask if there are any competitors.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rjawad1]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-08-20T02:06:33Z</updated>
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