Beto-Music wrote:

Are you referring  to a muddy overal band/group, or to the piano solo in beginning ?
The piano alone it's very nice sound, but the drummer, vibrationg, fast added some muddy feel here and there.

EvilDragon wrote:

This sounds like there's a mic in the room and that it's pretty high in the mix, makes up most of the sound. It's quite muddy, I don't particularly like it.

You responded to Evil Dragon, but I'll respond anyway, since I mentioned hearing it as muddy. I was only talking about the muddiness of the bowed instrument when it was in the same register and sometimes playing the same notes as Laurie. (It's not a bass, or a contrabass as it's called in classical circles? Looks tall for a cello to me, since he's standing, I think.)

More generally, I like the sound of the piano, which is what you posted about. Great attack and presence and a nice evolving "organic" sound. I didn't like the band arrangement or the version in general. It's a sad, down-to-the-end-of-nowhere song, literally a dirge, and somehow it comes across as almost upbeat, here, with the swing horns and the harmony singer. Too fast a tempo, is part of the problem.

It's not particularly muddy. That's just the sound of the contrabass in that register. It is quite rare to see it bowed in a jazz performance but it does happen as a stylistic choice. I quite liked the combination of the bowed contrabass and the mallets rolls on the drums. They almost sound like orchestral timpani plus a bass string tremolo. Nice effect I can copy.

:-(

Are you referring  to a muddy overal band/group, or to the piano solo in beginning ?
The piano alone it's very nice sound, but the drummer, vibrationg, fast added some muddy feel here and there.

EvilDragon wrote:

This sounds like there's a mic in the room and that it's pretty high in the mix, makes up most of the sound. It's quite muddy, I don't particularly like it.

You responded to Evil Dragon, but I'll respond anyway, since I mentioned hearing it as muddy. I was only talking about the muddiness of the bowed instrument when it was in the same register and sometimes playing the same notes as Laurie. (It's not a bass, or a contrabass as it's called in classical circles? Looks tall for a cello to me, since he's standing, I think.)

More generally, I like the sound of the piano, which is what you posted about. Great attack and presence and a nice evolving "organic" sound. I didn't like the band arrangement or the version in general. It's a sad, down-to-the-end-of-nowhere song, literally a dirge, and somehow it comes across as almost upbeat, here, with the swing horns and the harmony singer. Too fast a tempo, is part of the problem.

Are you referring  to a muddy overal band/group, or to the piano solo in beginning ?
The piano alone it's very nice sound, but the drummer, vibrationg, fast added some muddy feel here and there.

EvilDragon wrote:

This sounds like there's a mic in the room and that it's pretty high in the mix, makes up most of the sound. It's quite muddy, I don't particularly like it.

Talking about the whole mix. Looks like there's a combination of close miking and some room mics, and room mics are louder in the mix. Dunno, not particularly liking it (though I love Laurie's playing).

I imagine for a instant, since it's a afro derived music style, you were refering to this african instrument (called berimbau on Brazil) :

When you say bow you can refer to chello, double bass/contrabass or even violins.

On Youtube there are some videos about crazy atempts to bow a grand piano, browing the bass strings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14jPvnWhdNM

Do not even think about request that to Modartt, or they will punish you :

Uhn ??? Where did you saw that ??? A bow ??

Jake Johnson wrote:

(Strange choice to use a bow on the bass. Muddies the lower registers and just gets in the way, to me.)

You can hear it starting at about 0:56, and then see it at about 1:04. It hits many of the same bass notes as Laurie. Yep, strange for a relatively small ensemble.

(Strange choice to use a bow on the bass. Muddies the lower registers and just gets in the way, to me.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzDVgQsCSaM