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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I vote a big fat no to guitarteq. They are a very small team and I want them to keep working on piano and maybe organ. Guitar on a KB does not work well anyway, no matter how good the software emulation. How are you going to play even the simplest styles on a KB like eg:<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/wXt54N7aojc">https://youtu.be/wXt54N7aojc</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SteveLy]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-03-23T16:52:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d love to see a Guitarteq someday too, like they are working on Organteq.&nbsp; I bought Pianoteq because they support Linux.&nbsp; I&#039;m learning to compose, but I am not a performer - I plan on using Pianoteq for some casual piano learning, but moreso to read midi files and record the resulting audio.&nbsp; The vibrating string algorithms are well established, the algorithms used for felt hardness should be easily adapted to model flesh vs. nails vs. plectrum (actually, plectrum might already be in harpsichord).&nbsp; At least a steel string acoustic guitar model should be readily do-able by the team.</p><p>Knowing Modartt, with their reputation for excellence and beyond, maybe they could assign which string by a 3rd midi axis, something equivalent to the front / back axis of a Roli Seaboard or Haaken Continuum.&nbsp; This would quite probably need to be edited in the midi file after a keystroke capture from a traditional piano-style controller.</p><p>Anyhow, I would love to see a guitar sound in Pianoteq, that could hopefully be spun off as Guitarteq.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mekosmowski]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-03-21T02:00:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Fleer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Very nice indeed. Has a Stephen Wilson prog rock atmosphere. I like it a lot.</p></blockquote></div><p>Many thanks Fleer. I lean quite a lot to the proggy side of things. I need to properly listen to Stephen Wilson because recently, someone else made the link too. Big difference of course is that he can play the guitar <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fulvia]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-07-22T19:14:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stephen_Doonan wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>fulvia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My recent track used all AAS electric guitar, played from the keyboard, but, at one point a dropped in some real acoustic just to add some warmth. Oh, and the piano was Pianoteq of course!</p><p><a href="https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds">https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Beautiful and inventive chord changes, great sense of rhythm and syncopation, and gorgeous &quot;wall of sound&quot; arrangement. Very nice.</p></blockquote></div><p>Many thanks for your feedback Stephen; it&#039;s greatly appreciated!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fulvia]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-07-22T19:08:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very nice indeed. Has a Stephen Wilson prog rock atmosphere. I like it a lot.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fleer]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-07-22T13:34:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fulvia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My recent track used all AAS electric guitar, played from the keyboard, but, at one point a dropped in some real acoustic just to add some warmth. Oh, and the piano was Pianoteq of course!</p><p><a href="https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds">https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Beautiful and inventive chord changes, great sense of rhythm and syncopation, and gorgeous &quot;wall of sound&quot; arrangement. Very nice.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stephen_Doonan]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-07-21T23:57:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see the guys at Modart produce &quot;Guitarteq,&quot; providing they could maintain resources on improving Pianoteq. I&#039;d be their first customer!</p><p>I&#039;m foremost a keyboard player who recognises that his guitar playing is pretty ropey and rough round the edges, so, I sometimes use AAS GS Strum to play electric guitar solos and some strumming work too - mostly things I just cannot achieve on real guitar. I like their modelling software, but the level of realism is not as exacting as Moddart&#039;s with their pianos, and particularly so in the acoustic guitars. </p><p>My recent track used all AAS electric guitar, played from the keyboard, but, at one point I dropped in some real acoustic just to add some warmth. Oh, and the piano was Pianoteq of course!</p><p><a href="https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds">https://ianneal.bandcamp.com/track/fair-winds</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-07-21T23:28:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gaston wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>honjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another outstanding, lovely piece (by Gaston) that illustrates that as long as the software is useful musically, it need not be completely realistic. The flexibility (full keyboard and more, layering more than one instance, reparameterization etc.) and amazing CPU efficiency of PT add tremendous value to all users, and adding a guitar could only be a plus for any interested user. Based on past history, a Modartt guitar would certainly be one of the best right out of the gate.</p></blockquote></div><p>This &quot;classic&quot; preset sounding more like a harp than a guitar, I tried to replace it with Pianoteq Harp &quot;a la piano&quot; (same MIDI file) :<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite">https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting comparison Gaston!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-06-09T17:02:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>honjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another outstanding, lovely piece (by Gaston) that illustrates that as long as the software is useful musically, it need not be completely realistic. The flexibility (full keyboard and more, layering more than one instance, reparameterization etc.) and amazing CPU efficiency of PT add tremendous value to all users, and adding a guitar could only be a plus for any interested user. Based on past history, a Modartt guitar would certainly be one of the best right out of the gate.</p></blockquote></div><p>This &quot;classic&quot; preset sounding more like a harp than a guitar, I tried to replace it with Pianoteq Harp &quot;a la piano&quot; (same MIDI file) :<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite">https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gaston]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-06-09T02:22:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gaston wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I entered the world of computer music some 25 years ago, with a PC-386, a Soundblaster card and a Yamaha DB50XG daughter card plugged into the SB with a<br />Waveblaster connector.<br />The PC and the SB have died for a long time but my DB50XG is still alive, I built a case with a power supply to use it as a standalone synthesizer.<br />I use it with XG-Gold, an XG editor that increases the means of this card.<br />There is among others a preset &quot;Classic&quot; which attempts to replicate a guitar.<br />It&#039;s not realistic at all but I like this spectacular sound, and it&#039;s very inspiring to improvise.<br />And the sound spreads across the whole keyboard range (and even more if necessary ...)<br />It was my favorite preset for improvisation before the Pianoteq era <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />Here is a piece made with this DB50XG.<br />The other sound (a kind of pan flute) also comes from the DB50XG<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite-xg">https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite-xg</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Another outstanding, lovely piece (by Gaston) that illustrates that as long as the software is useful musically, it need not be completely realistic. The flexibility (full keyboard and more, layering more than one instance, reparameterization etc.) and amazing CPU efficiency of PT add tremendous value to all users, and adding a guitar could only be a plus for any interested user. Based on past history, a Modartt guitar would certainly be one of the best right out of the gate.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T19:12:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I see no huge problem in make things easy, more affordable, accessible, as long as real great talents don&#039;t be put by side. Music industry push too much crap and don&#039;t value great talents today. Technology it&#039;s not bad, it&#039;s how people use it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T17:55:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I entered the world of computer music some 25 years ago, with a PC-386, a Soundblaster card and a Yamaha DB50XG daughter card plugged into the SB with a<br />Waveblaster connector.<br />The PC and the SB have died for a long time but my DB50XG is still alive, I built a case with a power supply to use it as a standalone synthesizer.<br />I use it with XG-Gold, an XG editor that increases the means of this card.<br />There is among others a preset &quot;Classic&quot; which attempts to replicate a guitar.<br />It&#039;s not realistic at all but I like this spectacular sound, and it&#039;s very inspiring to improvise.<br />And the sound spreads across the whole keyboard range (and even more if necessary ...)<br />It was my favorite preset for improvisation before the Pianoteq era <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />Here is a piece made with this DB50XG.<br />The other sound (a kind of pan flute) also comes from the DB50XG<br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite-xg">https://soundcloud.com/g-rard-delassus/perplexite-xg</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gaston]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T16:39:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How about nylon string guitar for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>See here is the point, what you describe might motivate the rejection of those tools based on constructs of merit rather than merit itself.</p><p>How many for instance will reject guitar being added to Pianoteq, based on such form of puritanism... (use of a keyboard) <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>If a computer can help anyone play music, compose... then from all those bunch, which to pick? </p><p>Would you be buying a sub 5000$ electric piano to go with your Pianoteq... if</p><p>1) you can&#039;t reveal you possess one to anyone outside of your family.<br />2) You can&#039;t show anyone (outside family) that you can physically perform.<br />3) you are only allowed to present a videoclip, in which the instrument and the tools which were used aren&#039;t shown... neither are you.</p><p>You wanted to know how to filter from all those bunch of crap on the internet... simple, by removing selection bias!!! Others have no information as to whom produced it, and how it was produced.</p><p>It&#039;s inevitable. See this was the prime goal of European (Christian) and Islamic alchemy... producing the most precious (aka Gold) by using the most basic components.&nbsp; </p><p>And for anyone who already has Pianoteq... 59$ for a guitar add-on combined with a sub-100$ guitar (to layer afterward for the limitations) is the cheapest (most basic) combination to make Gold. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lucy]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T04:29:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Analogy between speaking and thinking.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>skip wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah - imagine Monty Python&#039;s &quot;The Butcher Who is Alternately Polite and Rude&quot; sketch if it only had the polite bits!<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4QAlAjrz38">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4QAlAjrz38</a></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T03:31:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t talk about puritanism, and it&#039;s a fact that talents can pop everywhere, even in very poor places if have some chance. </p><p>But a overload of offer, volume, amount of works, made easy by many tools and easily published... I don&#039;t know...<br />Not sure if it&#039;s just the media to blame, for lack of quality nowadays, sice it appears diabolic in a plan to made people stupidy and sellect and promove many stupid fashion...or if it&#039;s societ own inclination for stupidity.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-06-08T03:24:32Z</updated>
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