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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aandrmusic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A general question re overstrung vs straight strung.</p><p>Is it a MAJOR structural difference, i.e. can a manufacturer use MOST of the same parts with different positioning of pins, bridges, etc&nbsp; ?<br />Could an overstrung be taken apart and rebuilt as straight strung ? or the other way around ?<br />Just curious.</p></blockquote></div><p>Depending on the rib scale (how many ribs and at what angle they are relative to the fallboard), a new bridge(s) might have to be made to<br />fall on a rib, which helps the sustain of the notes at the end of the bridge(s), not to mention a new plate. Hammer bore angles would have<br />to be redone in areas where the strings are at an angle, usually the middle, tenor, and bass sections. Hammer heights in the bass would<br />have to be changed to account for the new height of the bass section.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lowendtheory]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A general question re overstrung vs straight strung.</p><p>Is it a MAJOR structural difference, i.e. can a manufacturer use MOST of the same parts with different positioning of pins, bridges, etc&nbsp; ?<br />Could an overstrung be taken apart and rebuilt as straight strung ? or the other way around ?<br />Just curious.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aandrmusic]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-04-03T21:57:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Chopin87 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The piano in the video seems just the classical Steinway with crossed strings, is it? I think I also spotted the Fabbrini logo on the right side.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not before a Bösendorfer <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>+1 <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>In some of them there is a Barenboim, in others as you say Fabbrini logo on S&amp;S</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-03-30T01:21:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The piano in the video seems just the classical Steinway with crossed strings, is it? I think I also spotted the Fabbrini logo on the right side.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not before a Bösendorfer <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>+1 <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Chopin87]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-29T22:44:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>At THAT sort of price I would EXPECT my OWN NAME to be on the fall board.</p><p>Heck, I resent having the manufacturer&#039;s name on my vehicle - it is pointless.<br />By the time a pedestrian can read &quot;Dodge&quot; it is too late to move out of the way <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p>Beto - - did you REALLY mean Baren-boing ?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-03-29T20:43:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Uhhnn, I reammber about 2 or more years before, in this forum, about a attempt to bring back straight parallel strings, oposed to the idea of crossed strings, in order to make notes more clear/transparent and individual in tone. Was it the Barenboing piano years ago or also another person concept about straight strings in a modern piano?</p><br /><p>Nice video about Barenboin with his instrument, playing and explaining:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GTU9uM9s70">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GTU9uM9s70</a></p><br /><p>I have a idea. Since pianoteq have some sort of &quot;metaphysiscs hability&quot;, like it did making the deep bass note of a single string sound honky for a specific preset, I would like to propose the idea of altered the strings angle, inclination, crossed angle, with a progressive pedal, from parallel straight to crossed strings. This would allow to control the &quot;individuality&quot; of notes.</p><p>This would turn pianoteq into something beautiful and at the same time unic during the playing, not possible in the real piano world, but only in the modelled piano world.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-03-23T04:39:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So this is a throwback to pianos whose strings all run parallel to one another throughout the entire keyboard range.&nbsp; Most modern pianos of all brands (excepting perhaps the Baremboim) follow the flared, two-layer (where the bass strings&#039; orientations are flared and overlap the piano&#039;s tenor strings) stringing pattern set by the original Steinway D back in the 1880&#039;s.</p><p>Tone quality and playability notwithstanding, the reason Baremboim seems to be so ecstatic about the piano ... probably has to do more with his surname being printed on the fallboard.&nbsp; When it comes to self-promotion, perhaps P.T. Barnum was right:&nbsp; &quot;A sucker is born every minute.&quot;</p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/26/daniel-barenboim-reveals-radical-new-piano-design-ive-fallen-in-love-with-it">https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/...ve-with-it</a></p><p>* * * * * * * *</p><p>Personally, I believe there are many other pianos (mentioned countless times in the Pianoteq forum that they don&#039;t need to be mentioned here) that continue to deserve placement in front of the Baremboim piano.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p><p>EDIT:&nbsp; There are only two examples of the Baremboim piano in existence -- DB&#039;s personal instrument and one owned by the designer.&nbsp; This fact, combined with the notion that a custom Baremboim piano will cost at least three times the price of a new Steinway D, makes for some fine &quot;navel contemplation&quot; only.&nbsp; </p><p>End EDIT</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-03-22T17:32:17Z</updated>
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			<updated>2017-03-22T16:55:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Not before a Bösendorfer <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-03-22T16:51:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Suggested model - Barenboim Piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p><p>How about a Barenboim Piano as a Pianoteq model???</p><p>Kindest Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-03-22T16:28:36Z</updated>
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