TBH, I never make post in any kind of forum before. Pianoteq made me start writing. I really want Modart to succeed. Hope in the next version release they can be at least on par with the realism of sample based piano sound.

Realism ... in terms of trying to match a real world piano exactly ... is just not what Pianoteq is about.

Fact is no matter how close the digital products currently are, there's something that's a bit off and you get listening fatigue over time.  (Check out the Pianoworld forum -- you see people's tag lines showing numerous piano VSTs)

Hence, the most important feature that Pianoteq gives me is the sheer variety of the different presets and the the free instruments.  Every 2 weeks, I switch to a different instrument, play for a while -- and when I switch back to a "go to" instrument, everything feels new again.  And the price is way cheaper than buying multiple sample-based piano VSTs.

Now I'am also the happy owner of Ravenscroft 275. What a sound. I am settled now, at least until Pianoteq 6 show up .

Sounds a good software, but does not work on Linux.

Like I have previously mentioned there are a lot of taste involved.

For my needs Pianoteq is the best , it might not be the best for you. I am running it in a netbook which has 32 GB of SSD... it takes minimal space!

The really important thing is that you are satisfied with what you have.

TBH, I never make post in any kind of forum before. Pianoteq made me start writing. I really want Modart to succeed. Hope in the next version release they can be at least on par with the realism of sample based piano sound. Now I'am also the happy owner of Ravenscroft 275. What a sound. I am settled now, at least until Pianoteq 6 show up .

Btw, I didnt like G that much either thats why I didnt comment on it but it was better than D, D was thin and has artifacts, which is funny as I dont like the Gotrian at all, I prefer the bluethner

I didnt read the commentary in order to not be spoiled

I liked B, far more the rest.

D, didnt like it but it has some artifacts as well on the recording

Keep in mind that most sampled pianos will sound like a piano because well, they are sampled, pianoteq is far more responsive while playing and far more configurable to your liking, but you may get weird results if you mess it up a little bit.

I have an acoustic piano and because the speaker system I have yet to find an option that sounds like an acoustic, I guess you can model it but now we shold worry about how to project the sound.

Also they should be at the same volume, I think they aren't people tend to go toward the higher volume in those comparison according to Phillipe

Based upon the panning of the notes, Pianoteq characteristically pans the high notes to the right, and the lower notes towards the left.  Of the three examples furnished, only the middle version's panning corresponded to a "Pianoteq" regular preset.  I didn't pay attention as to how the "piano" sounded, as my playing style is much different than those of the three selections.  Also, the scale was a white note scale from E to E (Phrygian mode??), whose compositional mode is not my cup of tea.

This distinction was made after playing the first selection for about 30 seconds, the second selection for about 10 seconds, and the third selection less than 5 seconds. 

Cheers,

Joe

The background noise of the middle sample would lead many to conclude that it wasn't Pianoteq. Pianoteq records in midi, then generate the wav file (no such noise is generated). So it was the least probable it was Pianoteq.

Such elements are more determinant than presets which can all be changed.

Sample 3 start was very weak, but like I had already mentioned, it require a change in the playing style to do justice to the instrument.

jcfelice88keys wrote:

Based upon the panning of the notes, Pianoteq characteristically pans the high notes to the right, and the lower notes towards the left.

That would depend on the preset that was the starting point for the tweaking, though, was it AB or BA, no? So you could be easily fooled if you just thought that panning is the smoking gun.

Hello Mr. Dragon,

I concur with your assessment.  However, two other choices were so obviously panned backwards (BA in Pianoteq parlance), and the third choice was extremely hard panned backwards, that I based my assessment on the difference between the other two samples.

Cheers,

Joe

Based upon the panning of the notes, Pianoteq characteristically pans the high notes to the right, and the lower notes towards the left.

That would depend on the preset that was the starting point for the tweaking, though, was it AB or BA, no? So you could be easily fooled if you just thought that panning is the smoking gun.

This distinction was made after playing the first selection for about 30 seconds, the second selection for about 10 seconds, and the third selection less than 5 seconds. 

Cheers,

Joe

Btw I like your signature. It is the perfect fifth frequency, isn't it?

You got me.

I think you might be surprised that it probably the other way around. Btw win10 is just fine.

I can understand that for those who do the Tweaking it might sound it's the other way around. :b I merely pick Pianoteq D4 (it's the one I like most) and all its variants (also from FXP corner) and leave others do the tweaking. I actually do not spend any time tweaking in Pianoteq. Regarding my comment about Linux, I was answering another user comment. I use Pianoteq on a Celeron N3060, and with Pianoteq under Win10 I get very often the message that the CPU is overloading.

Mossy wrote:

I like D due to the wider dynamics difference.

TBH I am surprised you can tell this by listening. I feel the same by playing all 3 sound.

This may be a mind trick from the recording where D starts off at a lower volume and the tone of the note is softer.

TBH I am surprised you can tell this by listening. I feel the same by playing all 3 sound.

Totally agree with you. Not all pianist out there is techie. How can our kids play pianoteq? But perhaps this true to all software base piano out there. Btw I like your signature. It is the perfect fifth frequency, isn't it?

I think you might be surprised that it probably the other way around. Btw win10 is just fine.

@mabry & pianoteqenthusiast
Agree, one must try to playing it instead of just hearing it. It was the thing that bring me to pianoteq.

As mentioned, out of curiosity I bought Addictive Keys, a sample based piano. I found the sound is beautiful. But something is not in the league of pianoteq and my digital piano. First, the attack is not 'attack' enough (I don't know how to express it). Second, when I quickly depressed then pressed the pedal, the sound was just cut. There was no resonance whatsoever left. Don't know if more expensive sample based piano software behaves the same. I think this is important for pianist. Another story for recording though. Kudos for pianoteq and my cheap digital piano.

As of now, score for the poll: B is 4, D is 4, G is 1. Not include the preference in the comments. And the sounds used in the recordings are:
B: Pianoteq Bluethner Model One
D: Yamaha DGX 650 (about 600USD new in Indonesia)
G: Pianoteq Gotrian Player

For pianoteq I have Model D, K2, Bluethner, Gotrian and Model B. Love them all in different ways. I use win10 core2duo 1.8ghz laptop, zoom r16 as sound card, and roland ua ex1 sound card + andoid tablet to record the sound. I have casio px 150, the keyboard action is really good IMO, the sound? Not so much. Would love to try the more expensive keyboard though. I also have Yamaha DGX 650, the sound? Surprising, as shown in this topic posts/poll.

Last, I very much looking forward to Pianoteq 6. Hope they will also improve the existing sound to the next level. It will be like a dream, having all those gorgeous acoustic piano in your living room..