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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A real Frenzel 1835]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>on a somewhat more relevant note -<br />here&#039;s a little bit more about the performer, Bart van Sambeek: <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_van_Sambeek,">https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_van_Sambeek,</a> his editions of neglected repertoire from 1780-1850: <a href="http://vansambeekedities.nl/,">http://vansambeekedities.nl/,</a> and the restorers, &quot;Klavier-Atelier&quot; of Gert Hecher, of the Frenzel in the video: <a href="http://www.hecherpiano.com/">http://www.hecherpiano.com/</a></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is that the scale tunning choice or it&#039;s really out tune ?</p></blockquote></div><p>&#039;not sure what &quot;tunning&quot; is, but do you mean that some intervals seem more &quot;out of tune&quot; to you than others (ie well-tempered) vs all intervals being equally &quot;out of tune&quot; (ie the &quot;perfection&quot; of modern mathematically equal temperament)...?&nbsp; the unisons sound fine to me and none of the intervals distressingly wide or narrow, so i&#039;m curious what you consider to be &quot;in tune&quot;, or was your comment really just meant as some sort of sarcastic dig at historic instruments with non-ET, perhaps in the same sort of vein with which Kalkbrenner&#039;s music was <em>ad hominem</em> attacked by the likes of Heine more on the basis of his alleged personality over any sort of real musical merit...??</p><p>edit: oh wait!&nbsp; &#039;looked it up &amp; &quot;tunning&quot; <em>is</em> a word (albeit an odd archaic one) ~<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>tun<br />/tʌn/<br />verb - <em>archaic</em><br />gerund or present participle: <em><strong>tunning</strong></em><br />store (wine or other alcoholic drinks) in a tun.</p></blockquote></div><p>perhaps then this was a freudian slip concerning the spirited state in which the observation about &quot;out tune&quot; was made...?&nbsp; <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is that the scale tunning choice or it&#039;s really out tune ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-14T12:36:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>that&#039;s a stunning restoration job—thanks for sharing this!<br />dj</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-13T23:34:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Found a nice video (and the same fellow has some more videos) of a chap playing his restored 1835 Frenzel which may interest those of you who like the historic pianos.&nbsp; It would be similar to the Kremsegg 2 collection&#039;s 1841 Frenzel.</p><p>Also it&#039;s an interesting piece of music by Kalkbrenner which is new to me.</p><p>Here&#039;s the video link : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3oWwsrCjTg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3oWwsrCjTg</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-13T21:41:15Z</updated>
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