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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do you think about Electric Pianos Instrument Pack?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977988#p977988</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Chopin87 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I do prefer Pianoteq over LL or anything for the matter but I was able to do so only whan upgrading to the Pro version. Voicing the pickups per key was an eye opener for me to get the sound I wanted.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m sure you are right. That&#039;s some hardcore tweaking, and nothing wrong with that. That&#039;s if you want to simulate the piano tuner/service engineer aspect too. I might go for Pro one day but it&#039;s not really on my radar right now TBH. </p><p> I&#039;m just a little wary that folks wanting great performance from the presets alone might get the impression from comments like this that that is what it takes to get good sound from Pianoteq!</p><p>Personally I&#039;m perfectly satisfied with the substantial sound tuning opportunities in Standard. Heck, even Stage can be tuned a great deal with the EQ and FX options (the latter which is more relevant to electric pianos than standard pianos).<br />&nbsp; No doubt many casual musicians (that are perhaps less computer savvy) find even those options a little overwhelming.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 07:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I do prefer Pianoteq over LL or anything for the matter but I was able to do so only when upgrading to the Pro version. Voicing the pickups per key was an eye opener for me to get the sound I wanted.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Chopin87)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 02:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Though I called close miked <br /> identically placed microphones to achieve mono out to stereo FX a kind of kludge it works well.&nbsp; </p><p>Not expecting it to sound completely authentic, but typically we EQ the heck out of EP sounds anyway.&nbsp; So probably very similar results to the line out - and moving the close miked microphones (together) is another way to change the sound balance like EQ.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Key Fumbler)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do you think about Electric Pianos Instrument Pack?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977973#p977973</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve got several physically modelled and sampled electric pianos. <br />My favourites are the Pianoteq and Lounge Lizard (even though the modelling isn&#039;t as cutting-edge). There is also GSI in the physical modelling, but that&#039;s not been upgraded to my on knowledge in years (I&#039;m guessing you get exactly that in the Crumar Seven hardware keyboard - and still sounds good).</p><p>IMHO the factory presets for Pianoteq probably need improvement, particularly for the Reed (Wurly) model. </p><p>For my use the Pianoteq models are nonetheless at least as good as the very best modelled and sampled available. I&#039;ve never owned the real things though. They just feel more like mechanical (almost Living) things. </p><p>However (as per another thread conversation)&nbsp; the FX should be able to work in stereo from a mono line output - not a kludge with close microphones). I think they are probably working on that now. <br />Not such a biggie as most of us will use other FX in a DAW anyway, but it would be nice to have that in the standalone.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Key Fumbler)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=977972#p977972</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The Rhodes modelling is great but the Wurli needs work - sounds too synthetic.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Pepe-69)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=948094#p948094</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sjgcit wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Fleer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you&#039;re just starting out with Pianoteq, the EP/Hohner bundle is the best one in my book. Add a grand piano or two and you&#039;re set.</p></blockquote></div><p>Note that if you don&#039;t need the traditional pianos much, all Pianoteq versions (Stage, Standard, Pro) can use the <a href="https://www.pianoteq.com/free_stuff">free instruments</a>, which include the 1926 Pleyel model F grand and the 1922 Erard half grand and the harpsichords, and the older style piano models.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for reminding me. You&#039;re absolutely right.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2017 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=948089#p948089</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you are interested mostly in live performance rather than recording/playback of files, there&#039;s nothing that compares to the Pianoteq EP (and AP) models, in my experience. Many of the other virtual EPs, either modeled or sampled, have presets that do sound very realistic and pleasing (e.g., Scarbee, Lounge Lizard, MainStage, etc.). I particularly like the sound of the MainStage presets that emulate the amp sound of the Rhodes Suitcase models. However, you can adjust the parameters of the Pianoteq models to sound like any of these if you wish. Yes, MainStage and others may be less expensive and may have some preset sounds you like, but the experience of playing in real time is different. Pianoteq feels more responsive and alive, and is very easy to adapt to the velocity characteristics of your keyboard. For comparison, I&#039;ve owned and/or played many real Rhodes and Wurli pianos over the years. Now I can adjust Pianoteq and my keyboard to feel and sound like the real instruments (or actually better). It feels great to have a perfectly adjusted (Pianoteq) Rhodes or Wurli in a live setting. The real ones are a constant challenge to keep in good adjustment, as many of you probably know....Anyway, my basic message is that you can find many EPs that sound good, but Pianoteq is the one you want as a player for its responsive feel, in my opinion.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Fleer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you&#039;re just starting out with Pianoteq, the EP/Hohner bundle is the best one in my book. Add a grand piano or two and you&#039;re set.</p></blockquote></div><p>Note that if you don&#039;t need the traditional pianos much, all Pianoteq versions (Stage, Standard, Pro) can use the <a href="https://www.pianoteq.com/free_stuff">free instruments</a>, which include the 1926 Pleyel model F grand and the 1922 Erard half grand and the harpsichords, and the older style piano models.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sjgcit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>buis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For less than the price of the EP pack, mac users can get MainStage, which includes modeled EP and clavs and much more (alchemy). So the pianoteq EP pack does not seem like a good deal. Maybe if you own pianoteq pro and need to get your tweak on...</p></blockquote></div><p>I have MainStage and Logic but hardly ever use those EPs which are included in those application. For me Pianoteq EP sounds are clearly better and much more realistic.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Andreas71)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=948086#p948086</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you&#039;re just starting out with Pianoteq, the EP/Hohner bundle is the best one in my book. Add a grand piano or two and you&#039;re set.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Fleer)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=948083#p948083</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>For less than the price of the EP pack, mac users can get MainStage, which includes modeled EP and clavs and much more (alchemy). So the pianoteq EP pack does not seem like a good deal. Maybe if you own pianoteq pro and need to get your tweak on...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=946823#p946823</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think the Rhodes models in Pianoteq are great. I enjoy them a great deal. I&#039;m not into the other electrics but that&#039;s just my personal preference.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (SteveLy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=946806#p946806</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have and use Ableton Electric (i think it&#039;s licensed from AAS), the Logic Pro Rhodes VST, and the Pianoteq Electric Pianos.&nbsp; Also have used Scarbee.&nbsp; I love them all!&nbsp; Ableton/Lounge Lizard barks the best, Logic has nice bell tones, Scarbee&#039;s samples have very cool key noises...but overall I like Pianoteq the best (and it gets 80-90% of the use) because it feels so lively and responsive.&nbsp; Vintage Electric Piano VSTs are amazing...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (David)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=946622#p946622</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Pianoteq is miles ahead of lounge lizard in realistic impersonation . It can sound extremely authentic, or like something new like lounge lizard does. AAS are way behind Modartt in mathematical modelling of real instruments.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=946579#p946579</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Less serious, but still. I kinda dislike the red and orange Pianoteq electrics GUI, probably because I love the deep blue color of the acoustics.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Fleer)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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